Comments on: Morgellons Theories are varied http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/ Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:10:26 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Annette Pukay http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1394 Annette Pukay Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:39:01 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1394 Annette Pukay Says: September 8th, 2007 at 4:12 am I’am just a mother that may have an idea of the cause of this problem. Please have an open mind . I was sitting in the car in the parking lot at a large store waiting for my family to hurry back from shopping. when i saw these men walking around the parking lot like they were lost but i watched further and they were droping something on to cars . you may be saying what does that have to do with this , well i’ll tell you. a man walked by my car and i saw what it was because one landed on my wind shield . It was the most colorful catillpillar I have ever seen. Have an open mind. I took out some napkins from the glove box and scooped up the catillpillar not touching it with my skin . just then my family came back from shopping and at the same time I showed them the catillpillar, I did not want anyone to touch it but to late my 3 year old touched it and then touched his lip when i said , “dont touch “, ok it went something like that. I read or heard somewhere that bright colored animals could be deadly ,was in the back of my thoughts but didn’t really think it could apply to catillpillars but i still did not want anyone to touch it. My son had an open sore on his lip at the time from a fall and it had a couple of stiches in it. the cut was healing nicely at the time. ok now we went home , catillpillar gone in trash and didn’t think about it again. It was not long after, days later when i noticed and my husband noticed my sons lip was not healing right so we took him to the hospital to take a look because it didn’t look right. there was a blue thread comming out of it , i thought it was the stiches but no. the doctor said it was morgellons, we have never heard of that before. they have to cut his lip and they took out some tissue with thread like things growing in it and asked if they could take pictures of it and of course we said sure , his lip did heal just fine after that but my thoughts kept comming back to that catillpillar he touched . I have never seen one so colorful before , with red , blue,yellow , green,white long haired catillpillar . I am not a good writer or speller so if have any questions about my story e-mail me. I think morgellons comes from a catillpillar but it can spread from people to people from open sores. Annette Pukay Says:
September 8th, 2007 at 4:12 am
I’am just a mother that may have an idea of the cause of this problem. Please have an open mind . I was sitting in the car in the parking lot at a large store waiting for my family to hurry back from shopping. when i saw these men walking around the parking lot like they were lost but i watched further and they were droping something on to cars . you may be saying what does that have to do with this , well i’ll tell you. a man walked by my car and i saw what it was because one landed on my wind shield . It was the most colorful catillpillar I have ever seen. Have an open mind. I took out some napkins from the glove box and scooped up the catillpillar not touching it with my skin . just then my family came back from shopping and at the same time I showed them the catillpillar, I did not want anyone to touch it but to late my 3 year old touched it and then touched his lip when i said , “dont touch “, ok it went something like that. I read or heard somewhere that bright colored animals could be deadly ,was in the back of my thoughts but didn’t really think it could apply to catillpillars but i still did not want anyone to touch it. My son had an open sore on his lip at the time from a fall and it had a couple of stiches in it. the cut was healing nicely at the time. ok now we went home , catillpillar gone in trash and didn’t think about it again. It was not long after, days later when i noticed and my husband noticed my sons lip was not healing right so we took him to the hospital to take a look because it didn’t look right. there was a blue thread comming out of it , i thought it was the stiches but no. the doctor said it was morgellons, we have never heard of that before. they have to cut his lip and they took out some tissue with thread like things growing in it and asked if they could take pictures of it and of course we said sure , his lip did heal just fine after that but my thoughts kept comming back to that catillpillar he touched . I have never seen one so colorful before , with red , blue,yellow , green,white long haired catillpillar . I am not a good writer or speller so if have any questions about my story e-mail me. I think morgellons comes from a catillpillar but it can spread from people to people from open sores.

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By: sarahbionedunn http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1392 sarahbionedunn Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:05:05 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1392 Jim, That's very exciting that you have proof. Have you thought about starting small? Do you have a home video camera, or something of the sort? Jim,

That’s very exciting that you have proof. Have you thought about starting small? Do you have a home video camera, or something of the sort?

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By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1376 Smileykins Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:16:25 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1376 I'm sorry, can you explain what you mean? I’m sorry, can you explain what you mean?

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By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1375 Smileykins Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:14:07 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1375 You mean metabolism? You mean metabolism?

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By: Jimi Shelter http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1377 Jimi Shelter Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:19:31 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1377 Its nothing but a chemical reaction. I have proof! Its nothing but a chemical reaction. I have proof!

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By: Jimi Shelter http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1387 Jimi Shelter Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:46:01 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1387 I know what morgs. disease is,and can prove it.I need help to film a documentory so people and doctors will beleive me. This is only goi'n to get worse if we don't do something about it soon.The government is parcialy responsible,and is going to cost a fortune to get rid of it.This is no joke I will bet everything I own on it. Please help us all it can be cured so call me please.Im not looking to make money Im just looking for some profesionals and advice so call me. We will be well known after we cure everybody. THANKS I know what morgs. disease is,and can prove it.I need help to film a documentory so people and doctors will beleive me. This is only goi’n to get worse if we don’t do something about it soon.The government is parcialy responsible,and is going to cost a fortune to get rid of it.This is no joke I will bet everything I own on it. Please help us all it can be cured so call me please.Im not looking to make money Im just looking for some profesionals and advice so call me. We will be well known after we cure everybody. THANKS

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By: Anonymous http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1396 Anonymous Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:37:18 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1396 I'm sorry, reading the post, I see that you're right. I think I was trying to add something when I wrote it. Or I misinterpreted what you said. Also, of course 2+2=5 is not true, It was only an reference to a book that I'm reading called 1984. Where a world government has taken over and is in a way "editing" history. Perhaps there is the possibility that we can't really trust anyone anymore (sorry for being cynical). People say things and you have to take it with a grain of salt. They may be true or they may not be. Even with what the government says. With Morgellons, I'm not sure, I've never met a person who has it so its possible but highly unlikely. On the subject I might be near the middle. To be honest the first time I have heard about this crazy disease was when watching a show called Out There TV. They talk about conspiracies and everything. Most of the things they say really are "out there" and I don't believe a word of it but it is interesting what they can come up with. If anyone is interested or if they want a chuckle, just do a search on the internet. I may have taken us off topic: For the topic: new theory(a joke), goes with the chem-trail/nanotechnology idea. What if the government is trying to use us to grow their materials for wires and computer components or fabrics. I’m sorry, reading the post, I see that you’re right. I think I was trying to add something when I wrote it. Or I misinterpreted what you said.

Also, of course 2+2=5 is not true, It was only an reference to a book that I’m reading called 1984. Where a world government has taken over and is in a way “editing” history. Perhaps there is the possibility that we can’t really trust anyone anymore (sorry for being cynical). People say things and you have to take it with a grain of salt. They may be true or they may not be. Even with what the government says. With Morgellons, I’m not sure, I’ve never met a person who has it so its possible but highly unlikely. On the subject I might be near the middle.

To be honest the first time I have heard about this crazy disease was when watching a show called Out There TV. They talk about conspiracies and everything. Most of the things they say really are “out there” and I don’t believe a word of it but it is interesting what they can come up with. If anyone is interested or if they want a chuckle, just do a search on the internet.

I may have taken us off topic:

For the topic: new theory(a joke), goes with the chem-trail/nanotechnology idea. What if the government is trying to use us to grow their materials for wires and computer components or fabrics.

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By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1399 Smileykins Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:13:33 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1399 Typo: "more" clear. (hehehe, sorry.) Also, when I said that the only reputable source of health information is available from sites associated with the NIH, what I meant was, that they are the bottom line for trustworthy information. Typo: “more” clear. (hehehe, sorry.)

Also, when I said that the only reputable source of health information is available from sites associated with the NIH, what I meant was, that they are the bottom line for trustworthy information.

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By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1395 Smileykins Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:59:11 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1395 Anonymous, I'm sorry, but I just hate it when someone says they've gotten a good point from one that I didn't even make. I was at fault, though, so I apologize for not being more clear when I said that there is a lot behind this business of "morgellons disease". Only someone close enough to know the etiology -- well, I really mean the actual forensic psychology, in the case of any one person who thinks that their match-box sign material is what has compromised their health -- has any inkling as to what's going on with anyone who thinks that. Considering the overall situation, I don't think it's too surprising, either, that we don't hear from any such people. If you've seen any news reports on "morgellons disease", you may have noticed the bias and the exploitation, seeing that the stories are for sensationalism and ratings. If journalists thought that their subjects' "morgellons disease" posed a public health threat they would report responsibly, have the patients sign releases, and interview some of the 10-40 doctors, on the average, that a lot of these patients have seen. If you've only recently heard of "morgellons disease", and become concerned, I encourage you to read this blog extensively, and you might come to understand what has occurred, and why. The genesis, as well as the evolution, of this patients' movement is clearly laid out over the internet as having begun about thirteen years ago, spawning a lot of extra confusion among those who consider themselves to be afflicted with what they think is a new disease. It has facilitated many continuing mishandlings of some of the most vulnerable members of society. Naturally, nobody can know whether Mary Leitao, the founding mother of this disease, and those other than she, who have signed onto "assisting" her with it, are mentally sound enough to be accountable for their actions, or not. But, there is only one thing that would stand in the way of any mother suspected of Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy's not getting the recommended evaluation for it. And, through the advent of a disease consisting of a majority of patients who've refused treating what their doctors have repeatedly diagnosed, and/or have not had the ability to effectively communicate their other, underlying, symptoms, the way has been paved for a whole lot of easy money to be made off of these patients by unscruptulous charlatans. By uniting so many people with DOP, through fibers, the main component of the match-box sign, in order to get patients behind Ms. Leitao's fight to try proving the disease that she says her children have, of course, such patients registered by reporting a whole slew of previously diagnosed conditions and symptoms, because a whole lot of known illnesses -- as well as side effects from meds, anemia, dehydration, and nutritional deficiencies -- can trigger the development of the state of psychosis known as DOP. By having her website, and forever expanding the symptoms and case defintion, and all the rest, including the constant nagging in pursuit of recognition, and taking this whole thing mainstream, it's caused fear in other vulnerable people, and persuaded them into thinking that they have her "morgellons disease", too, when nobody has any such thing. But, going back to where this business took one of the first turns for the worse (but there were others, before Mary Leitao entered the picture, and dubbed it "morgellons disease), it was when Nurse Ginger Savely contacted Mary Leitao because a lot of her patients presented with delusional parasitosis. A nurse should have known better, and, certainly if she really treats patients with geniune late-stage lyme disease, she ought to know of its neuropsychiatric affects. Dr. Stricker should also, and Dr. Harvey, except he's ill, himself. Oh, but that's another facet of this mess people are in, though, and I won't get off track onto the whole chronic lyme scenario, but it all ties in so beautifully. But anyway, since Savely didn't understand, she should have studied up on DOP, and, at least, had the common sense to know that the only reputable sources of health information on the web are from sites associated with the National Institutes of Health. That tendency to not know better happens to be rife among doctors/nurses/reseachers involving themselves with Mary Leitao's "morgellons disease". Anonymous, 2+2 will never equal 5. Logic solves problems, but when something interferes with a person's logic so badly that they're trapped inside a web of deceit, some, unfortunately, choose giving all their attention to the deceit, sacrificing everything else, until all is gone. Anonymous, I’m sorry, but I just hate it when someone says they’ve gotten a good point from one that I didn’t even make.

I was at fault, though, so I apologize for not being more clear when I said that there is a lot behind this business of “morgellons disease”.

Only someone close enough to know the etiology — well, I really mean the actual forensic psychology, in the case of any one person who thinks that their match-box sign material is what has compromised their health — has any inkling as to what’s going on with anyone who thinks that. Considering the overall situation, I don’t think it’s too surprising, either, that we don’t hear from any such people.

If you’ve seen any news reports on “morgellons disease”, you may have noticed the bias and the exploitation, seeing that the stories are for sensationalism and ratings. If journalists thought that their subjects’ “morgellons disease” posed a public health threat they would report responsibly, have the patients sign releases, and interview some of the 10-40 doctors, on the average, that a lot of these patients have seen.

If you’ve only recently heard of “morgellons disease”, and become concerned, I encourage you to read this blog extensively, and you might come to understand what has occurred, and why. The genesis, as well as the evolution, of this patients’ movement is clearly laid out over the internet as having begun about thirteen years ago, spawning a lot of extra confusion among those who consider themselves to be afflicted with what they think is a new disease. It has facilitated many continuing mishandlings of some of the most vulnerable members of society.

Naturally, nobody can know whether Mary Leitao, the founding mother of this disease, and those other than she, who have signed onto “assisting” her with it, are mentally sound enough to be accountable for their actions, or not. But, there is only one thing that would stand in the way of any mother suspected of Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy’s not getting the recommended evaluation for it. And, through the advent of a disease consisting of a majority of patients who’ve refused treating what their doctors have repeatedly diagnosed, and/or have not had the ability to effectively communicate their other, underlying, symptoms, the way has been paved for a whole lot of easy money to be made off of these patients by unscruptulous charlatans.

By uniting so many people with DOP, through fibers, the main component of the match-box sign, in order to get patients behind Ms. Leitao’s fight to try proving the disease that she says her children have, of course, such patients registered by reporting a whole slew of previously diagnosed conditions and symptoms, because a whole lot of known illnesses — as well as side effects from meds, anemia, dehydration, and nutritional deficiencies — can trigger the development of the state of psychosis known as DOP. By having her website, and forever expanding the symptoms and case defintion, and all the rest, including the constant nagging in pursuit of recognition, and taking this whole thing mainstream, it’s caused fear in other vulnerable people, and persuaded them into thinking that they have her “morgellons disease”, too, when nobody has any such thing.

But, going back to where this business took one of the first turns for the worse (but there were others, before Mary Leitao entered the picture, and dubbed it “morgellons disease), it was when Nurse Ginger Savely contacted Mary Leitao because a lot of her patients presented with delusional parasitosis. A nurse should have known better, and, certainly if she really treats patients with geniune late-stage lyme disease, she ought to know of its neuropsychiatric affects. Dr. Stricker should also, and Dr. Harvey, except he’s ill, himself. Oh, but that’s another facet of this mess people are in, though, and I won’t get off track onto the whole chronic lyme scenario, but it all ties in so beautifully. But anyway, since Savely didn’t understand, she should have studied up on DOP, and, at least, had the common sense to know that the only reputable sources of health information on the web are from sites associated with the National Institutes of Health. That tendency to not know better happens to be rife among doctors/nurses/reseachers involving themselves with Mary Leitao’s “morgellons disease”.

Anonymous, 2+2 will never equal 5. Logic solves problems, but when something interferes with a person’s logic so badly that they’re trapped inside a web of deceit, some, unfortunately, choose giving all their attention to the deceit, sacrificing everything else, until all is gone.

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By: Anonymous http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/comment-page-2/#comment-1382 Anonymous Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:01:49 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/05/17/morgellons-theories-are-varied/#comment-1382 You make a very good point. I see some problems with today's society. Its that lots of people believe what they hear on TV or in the media and they don't check things for themselves. Another problem I see is that sometimes information changes too rapidly. Its as if the doctors can't make up their minds as to what is good for us and what can harm us. One year they could say that eating apples is bad for us then in a few more years they may say that they're good for us. Eventually they have people going around in circles and not knowing what to believe. Someday 2+2 could equal 5 and war becomes peace and so on. Maybe we should all slow down a little with the important things such as health and consider the possibility that fibers can really grow out of our skin like they say they do. Stop listening to the hype and get down to the truth. You make a very good point. I see some problems with today’s society. Its that lots of people believe what they hear on TV or in the media and they don’t check things for themselves.

Another problem I see is that sometimes information changes too rapidly. Its as if the doctors can’t make up their minds as to what is good for us and what can harm us. One year they could say that eating apples is bad for us then in a few more years they may say that they’re good for us. Eventually they have people going around in circles and not knowing what to believe. Someday 2+2 could equal 5 and war becomes peace and so on.

Maybe we should all slow down a little with the important things such as health and consider the possibility that fibers can really grow out of our skin like they say they do. Stop listening to the hype and get down to the truth.

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