Comments on: Physical and/or Mental http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/ Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:10:26 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: dblcreek http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1831 dblcreek Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:22:31 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1831 JeezLouise: I couldn't agree more. Mistakes, whether, intentional or wreckless, have been made. Nonetheless, does that quailify members of this blog to be judge and jury on the rest of patients that suffer from an unknown disease? You want a rant about LB, you could probably get one from me, if provoked, but I won't go there either. Because it SHOULD be about privacy and respect. That's been my gripe about them from the get go and they darn well know it. Said it couldn't be done. Well it's been done now, hasn't it? The most important word being here being RESPECT. We are all in this together. On this planet TOGETHER. Whether you have THIS disease or THAT disease shouldn't matter. As adults and compassionate people, we should give one another the respect that every human being deserves and Smiley, I am not going to play games with you. Zilch. JeezLouise:

I couldn’t agree more. Mistakes, whether, intentional or wreckless, have been made. Nonetheless, does that quailify members of this blog to be judge and jury on the rest of patients that suffer from an unknown disease? You want a rant about LB, you could probably get one from me, if provoked, but I won’t go there either. Because it SHOULD be about privacy and respect. That’s been my gripe about them from the get go and they darn well know it. Said it couldn’t be done. Well it’s been done now, hasn’t it? The most important word being here being RESPECT. We are all in this together. On this planet TOGETHER. Whether you have THIS disease or THAT disease shouldn’t matter. As adults and compassionate people, we should give one another the respect that every human being deserves and Smiley, I am not going to play games with you. Zilch.

]]> By: JeeezeLouise http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1830 JeeezeLouise Tue, 04 Jul 2006 02:51:57 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1830 Legitimate support groups absolutely forbid members to reveal personal information about other members, past or present, EVER. Cults such as Scientology, on the other hand, advocate and encourage members to destroy those who have left the fold, by whatever means available. I'm just saying. Legitimate support groups absolutely forbid members to reveal personal information about other members, past or present, EVER.

Cults such as Scientology, on the other hand, advocate and encourage members to destroy those who have left the fold, by whatever means available.

I’m just saying.

]]> By: JeeezeLouise http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1829 JeeezeLouise Tue, 04 Jul 2006 02:23:42 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1829 This is why Lymebusters cannot be considered a "support forum". Personal information revealed/gleaned within the safety the safety of a support group situation is sacred. Legit support groups absolutely forbid their members to use such information against a fellow member OR a former member. REAL support groups have a vested interest in protecting their members, the value of such groups is the safety to spill all without fear. If Lymbebusters was AA or NA or Parents Without Partners or any other ethical support organization, Dblcreek would have earned a censure with this post. Cults are a different story. Scientology, for instance, condones and encourages members to destroy former members of the fold. This is why Lymebusters cannot be considered a “support forum”. Personal information revealed/gleaned within the safety the safety of a support group situation is sacred. Legit support groups absolutely forbid their members to use such information against a fellow member OR a former member. REAL support groups have a vested interest in protecting their members, the value of such groups is the safety to spill all without fear. If Lymbebusters was AA or NA or Parents Without Partners or any other ethical support organization, Dblcreek would have earned a censure with this post.

Cults are a different story. Scientology, for instance, condones and encourages members to destroy former members of the fold.

]]> By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1828 Smileykins Tue, 04 Jul 2006 01:52:27 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1828 <a href="http://of-morgellons.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Tall and Smelly</a> Tall and Smelly

]]> By: dblcreek http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1827 dblcreek Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:44:35 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1827 Dear Ms. Smileykins: First of all, I never said I went to church with you because you are not open-minded enough to attend the church I attend. And unless you have moved across the country, you know darn well you live just a hop, skip and a jump from me and did indeed send me a number of very ugly, uncharactaristic even for your venomous nature, emails, of which I still have in my possession. Can't anyone see here that methamphetamine addicts (no offense meant, my husband was a drug counselor for years and HE knows, congratulations on beating the demon and I mean it) are the highest percentage of persons with actual DOP in the world? I congratulate you on your overcoming these obstacles and illnesses that do come along with the heavy burden that drugs will put on your liver and entire system for that matter. But let's speak some truth here dear. We ALL know who you are and where you've come from ...you and Tall Cotton and just because you've recovered from the Demon Meth, does not mean that there are not people out here suffering from a VERY REAL illness! What is it going to take for you to understand that babies don't do drugs, small children don't pollute their bodies, and they are suffering from this scourge. There is plenty of medical evidence and it is growing. You are speculating. I am not. And if you don't stop misquoting me, I will gladly post not only all the crazy threatening emails from you and I think B.A. got you in line finally, but all the pics and extremist fundamentalist religious insanity that went along with it. Your off-screen persona is not a pretty picture my dear and I have every word and picture saved in my hard-drive and backed up, so I would be careful how and where I tread. I have also begun to recommend to posters on ANY forum that if they do not wish for their posts to be stolen and posted here for your amusement while they suffer this torment, that they should copyright and provide a disclaimer disallowing this dirty practice to be continued so that legal action may be taken in the case that they are. And as far as out-smarting you, Tall Cotton, no Bugs in that Cotton, huh? Well I'd say Southcity's got you beat hands down. Always has. So you be careful with your facts sweetheart, because I have them in black and white and even color photos too! Across the country my ass! Dear Ms. Smileykins:
First of all, I never said I went to church with you because you are not open-minded enough to attend the church I attend. And unless you have moved across the country, you know darn well you live just a hop, skip and a jump from me and did indeed send me a number of very ugly, uncharactaristic even for your venomous nature, emails, of which I still have in my possession. Can’t anyone see here that methamphetamine addicts (no offense meant, my husband was a drug counselor for years and HE knows, congratulations on beating the demon and I mean it) are the highest percentage of persons with actual DOP in the world? I congratulate you on your overcoming these obstacles and illnesses that do come along with the heavy burden that drugs will put on your liver and entire system for that matter. But let’s speak some truth here dear. We ALL know who you are and where you’ve come from …you and Tall Cotton and just because you’ve recovered from the Demon Meth, does not mean that there are not people out here suffering from a VERY REAL illness! What is it going to take for you to understand that babies don’t do drugs, small children don’t pollute their bodies, and they are suffering from this scourge. There is plenty of medical evidence and it is growing. You are speculating. I am not. And if you don’t stop misquoting me, I will gladly post not only all the crazy threatening emails from you and I think B.A. got you in line finally, but all the pics and extremist fundamentalist religious insanity that went along with it. Your off-screen persona is not a pretty picture my dear and I have every word and picture saved in my hard-drive and backed up, so I would be careful how and where I tread.
I have also begun to recommend to posters on ANY forum that if they do not wish for their posts to be stolen and posted here for your amusement while they suffer this torment, that they should copyright and provide a disclaimer disallowing this dirty practice to be continued so that legal action may be taken in the case that they are. And as far as out-smarting you, Tall Cotton, no Bugs in that Cotton, huh? Well I’d say Southcity’s got you beat hands down. Always has. So you be careful with your facts sweetheart, because I have them in black and white and even color photos too! Across the country my ass!

]]> By: pappasmurf http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1825 pappasmurf Sun, 02 Jul 2006 00:20:21 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1825 Really this grows more and more interesting I've been pursuing a two fold path. Psychotherapy and dental surgery. I'm almost better now Really this grows more and more interesting

I’ve been pursuing a two fold path.

Psychotherapy and dental surgery.

I’m almost better now

]]> By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1824 Smileykins Sat, 01 Jul 2006 19:31:23 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1824 Oops! My "b." is outta line up there, hehe. Oops! My “b.” is outta line up there, hehe.

]]> By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1823 Smileykins Sat, 01 Jul 2006 19:29:15 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1823 a. DYSFUNCTIONAL COGNITIVE b. PROCESSING PERSECUTORY DELUSIONS c. SOMATIC DELUSION A, B, C -- it's easy as -- 1, 2, 3 1. Primary Psychotic Delusional Parasitosis (Delusional parasitosis is the sole psychological disturbance) 2. Secondary Functional Delusional Parasitosis where there is an underlying psychiatric condition 3. 3. Secondary Organic Delusional Parasitosis where there is an underlying physical illness present I've yet to see any behaviors from morgies to lead me to think any differently, and if they were diagnosed as having delusional parasitosis and went against their doctors treatment recommendations... they've definitely NOT been abandoned by the medical community. They're helpless, and it's AWFUL. a. DYSFUNCTIONAL COGNITIVE
b. PROCESSING
PERSECUTORY DELUSIONS
c. SOMATIC DELUSION

A, B, C — it’s easy as — 1, 2, 3

1. Primary Psychotic Delusional Parasitosis (Delusional parasitosis is the sole psychological disturbance)
2. Secondary Functional Delusional Parasitosis where there is an underlying psychiatric condition
3. 3. Secondary Organic Delusional Parasitosis where there is an underlying physical illness present

I’ve yet to see any behaviors from morgies to lead me to think any differently, and if they were diagnosed as having delusional parasitosis and went against their doctors treatment recommendations…

they’ve definitely NOT been abandoned by the medical community. They’re helpless, and it’s AWFUL.

]]> By: Transhumanist http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-2/#comment-1826 Transhumanist Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:17:11 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1826 I just wanted to add that yeah, I'm a regular reader here, and like some of the others, am disappointed both in the efforts of the medical establishment and in the attitiude of those who self-diagnose with Morgellons. As many of you probably know, I joined Lymebusters because I was curious about the phenomenon. As many of you also know, the moment I didn't claim to be a sufferer, I was greeted with overt suspicion and repeatedly insulted, so I left. I still believe there's likely something to so-called Morgellon's Disease, and that it should be investigated, and, no, I don't think every person claiming to have it is delusional (maybe some are, though - I don't really know.) But I seriously doubt it'll ever really be investigated, because, quite frankly, the groupthink has taken over, and most of the sufferers I've encountered so far treat any attempts to analyze the phenomenon beyond the range of theories they've already developed with extreme hostility. I just wanted to add that yeah, I’m a regular reader here, and like some of the others, am disappointed both in the efforts of the medical establishment and in the attitiude of those who self-diagnose with Morgellons. As many of you probably know, I joined Lymebusters because I was curious about the phenomenon. As many of you also know, the moment I didn’t claim to be a sufferer, I was greeted with overt suspicion and repeatedly insulted, so I left. I still believe there’s likely something to so-called Morgellon’s Disease, and that it should be investigated, and, no, I don’t think every person claiming to have it is delusional (maybe some are, though – I don’t really know.) But I seriously doubt it’ll ever really be investigated, because, quite frankly, the groupthink has taken over, and most of the sufferers I’ve encountered so far treat any attempts to analyze the phenomenon beyond the range of theories they’ve already developed with extreme hostility.

]]> By: Tall Cotton http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/comment-page-1/#comment-1822 Tall Cotton Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:25:00 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/07/physical-andor-mental/#comment-1822 This post has been removed by the author. This post has been removed by the author.

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