Comments on: The Trouble with Cotton Socks http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/ Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:03:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Charlie http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-20974 Charlie Fri, 02 May 2008 19:14:11 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-20974 Since all white cotton has been bleached, which is also a strong disinfecting process, why should one expect that "pretreatment" of white cotton products at home with ammonia or anything else is going to kill something that bleach couldn't? Since all white cotton has been bleached, which is also a strong disinfecting process, why should one expect that “pretreatment” of white cotton products at home with ammonia or anything else is going to kill something that bleach couldn’t?

]]> By: lp http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-20284 lp Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:08:05 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-20284 Marie,, who told you that you have morgellons ,, did your dr. tell you , If he did ,, can you enlighten everyone here where in the medical jounals or books did he find it. A 3 inch black vibrating ,, sounds like cotton or thread and static electricity when you grabbed it .Stay with your dr. please , stop investigating on those other websites ,they will not help you,, they need company.Have you cleaned duct work in furnace ? My wife went through this and it is was real to her also, until a different direction was taken with a dr. that cares. Do you have a husband that can help ,and please tell your dr. exactly what you are doing not just some of it. If you have open sores ,they can tell if it is self induced or not .. He could be proceeding with caution with you as you are in a very nimble state ,but very treatable one. Please for your kids sake ,do not involve them ,it is affecting them more than you think ,down the road it will be better ,so go back to your dr. When my wife said she had it , she said also that this has been with her for many years also ,, .Now it is gone.. We are still doing tests though . Your first step is to go back to your dr. .. Marie,, who told you that you have morgellons ,, did your dr. tell you , If he did ,, can you enlighten everyone here where in the medical jounals or books did he find it. A 3 inch black vibrating ,, sounds like cotton or thread and static electricity when you grabbed it .Stay with your dr. please , stop investigating on those other websites ,they will not help you,, they need company.Have you cleaned duct work in furnace ? My wife went through this and it is was real to her also, until a different direction was taken with a dr. that cares. Do you have a husband that can help ,and please tell your dr. exactly what you are doing not just some of it. If you have open sores ,they can tell if it is self induced or not .. He could be proceeding with caution with you as you are in a very nimble state ,but very treatable one. Please for your kids sake ,do not involve them ,it is affecting them more than you think ,down the road it will be better ,so go back to your dr. When my wife said she had it , she said also that this has been with her for many years also ,, .Now it is gone.. We are still doing tests though . Your first step is to go back to your dr. ..

]]> By: Marie http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-20213 Marie Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:10:10 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-20213 I bought a package of white socks from Walmart about three months ago. I have morgellons disease. I left the new socks soak in vinegar and soap for three days and yet soon after putting them on I felt that sensation that theres something moving on my feet. Well, I just looked down and my right sock is interesting as most of it is just the threads and the cotton part is gone. I see these little cotton balls all the time on my pants and on the floor. I'm constantly sweeping them up. I'm sure that some sort of parasite has wrapped itself in the cotton and just leaving the skeleton behind. I'm not at all delusional and this has gone through my entire family. It's just sad that this site try's so hard to put doubt in people's minds. This is ruining my childrens lives as well as my own. How do you know my fibers are from the environment? Want me to send you an analysis if I can get my university to look at the 3 inch black one I found on my sock and was actually vibrating when I picked it up? I don't like looking at sores, so don't think for a minute I'm making them myself. I wouldn't think of trying to pull something from a sore on my body. They do come from intact skin as well. I know from whom, when, and what the disease course was until now. I just didn't know what it was called until I felt the pinch on my stomach, and when I went down to grab whatever it was all I found was a fuzzball. For some time, tossed them out, but then I googled fuzzball and found morgellons. It fit sadly. I bought a package of white socks from Walmart about three months ago. I have morgellons disease. I left the new socks soak in vinegar and soap for three days and yet soon after putting them on I felt that sensation that theres something moving on my feet. Well, I just looked down and my right sock is interesting as most of it is just the threads and the cotton part is gone. I see these little cotton balls all the time on my pants and on the floor. I’m constantly sweeping them up. I’m sure that some sort of parasite has wrapped itself in the cotton and just leaving the skeleton behind.
I’m not at all delusional and this has gone through my entire family. It’s just sad that this site try’s so hard to put doubt in people’s minds. This is ruining my childrens lives as well as my own. How do you know my fibers are from the environment? Want me to send you an analysis if I can get my university to look at the 3 inch black one I found on my sock and was actually vibrating when I picked it up? I don’t like looking at sores, so don’t think for a minute I’m making them myself. I wouldn’t think of trying to pull something from a sore on my body. They do come from intact skin as well. I know from whom, when, and what the disease course was until now. I just didn’t know what it was called until I felt the pinch on my stomach, and when I went down to grab whatever it was all I found was a fuzzball. For some time, tossed them out, but then I googled fuzzball and found morgellons. It fit sadly.

]]> By: Junebook http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2331 Junebook Thu, 17 May 2007 03:54:55 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2331 I recently went for cultures to be done on yeast, viral, bacterial, and fungus. Results are not yet back from that. I suspect that all of us have this in our bodies but are not affected unless the immune system is comprimised in some way. I have been fighting mine since I was 23 and am now almost 68.Joy. Did a dermatologist do those tests, Joy? Or your family practitioner? I recently went for cultures to be done on yeast, viral, bacterial, and fungus. Results are not yet back from that. I suspect that all of us have this in our bodies but are not affected unless the immune system is comprimised in some way. I have been fighting mine since I was 23 and am now almost 68.Joy.

Did a dermatologist do those tests, Joy? Or your family practitioner?

]]> By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2329 Michael Fri, 11 Aug 2006 18:21:16 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2329 Aherah, I've changed that entry now to read: <b>Q) Did Travis Wilson commit suicide because of Morgellons?</b> A) His mother, Lisa Wilson, initially though this, and this was stated on her TV interviews, but on internet postings she now believes it was not an overdose, and instead was a toxic reaction to his medication. Travis Wilson was a heroin user with a prior self described "two balloons a day drug habit". He was a patient of Savely who initially diagnosed and treated him. Over the next year or so his familiy spent $14,000 on his treatment. He seemed paranoid and delusional, his sad demise is being used to promote Morgellons disease. I hope that is clearer. Sorry I did not change it earlier, but I though that it was reasonable. Travis refered to Savely as "his nurse", as if she was the one treating him. Savely also appears in several stories about Travis. Still, since you brought it up again, I guess it was not clear enough, so I've changed it. Aherah, I’ve changed that entry now to read:

Q) Did Travis Wilson commit suicide because of Morgellons?
A) His mother, Lisa Wilson, initially though this, and this was stated on her TV interviews, but on internet postings she now believes it was not an overdose, and instead was a toxic reaction to his medication. Travis Wilson was a heroin user with a prior self described “two balloons a day drug habit”. He was a patient of Savely who initially diagnosed and treated him. Over the next year or so his familiy spent $14,000 on his treatment. He seemed paranoid and delusional, his sad demise is being used to promote Morgellons disease.

I hope that is clearer. Sorry I did not change it earlier, but I though that it was reasonable. Travis refered to Savely as “his nurse”, as if she was the one treating him. Savely also appears in several stories about Travis. Still, since you brought it up again, I guess it was not clear enough, so I’ve changed it.

]]> By: aherah http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2330 aherah Fri, 11 Aug 2006 18:03:54 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2330 Michael wrote: Q) Did Travis Wilson commit suicide because of Morgellons? A) His mother, Lisa Wilson, initially though this, and this was stated on her TV interviews, but on internet postings she now believes it was not an overdose, and instead was a toxic reaction to his medication. Travis Wilson was a heroin user with a prior self described “two balloons a day drug habit“. He was a patient of Savely who oversaw $14,000 of his treatment. He seemed paranoid and delusional, his sad demise is being used to promote Morgellons disease. http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/05/ I checked his link. I pointed out his factual error here http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/05/26/neurotic-excoriations-and-compulsive-skin-picking/#comments (actually, he didn't post it when I submitted it and it somehow ended-up in the wrong place) Where I said this: Q) Did Travis Wilson commit suicide because of Morgellons? It is pointless to argue whether or not Travis Wilson committed suicide because he had Morgellons. If he did, he is neither the first nor the last. Regardless, I am unclear how Michael interpreted “The Wilson’s spent $14,000 after insurance last year on doctors and medicine” to say “He was a patient of Savely who oversaw $14,000 of his treatment.” That’s quite a twist, or lie. He did not correct his blog entry which, from my perspective, sounds deceptive. MHKS, I'm actually pretty good at reading-between-the-lines. I heard you earlier. I agree with much of what you said (about the meds) and I appreciate your concern. Take Care, Aherah Michael wrote:

Q) Did Travis Wilson commit suicide because of Morgellons?
A) His mother, Lisa Wilson, initially though this, and this was stated on her TV interviews, but on internet postings she now believes it was not an overdose, and instead was a toxic reaction to his medication. Travis Wilson was a heroin user with a prior self described “two balloons a day drug habit“. He was a patient of Savely who oversaw $14,000 of his treatment. He seemed paranoid and delusional, his sad demise is being used to promote Morgellons disease.

http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/05/

I checked his link. I pointed out his factual error here http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/05/26/neurotic-excoriations-and-compulsive-skin-picking/#comments
(actually, he didn’t post it when I submitted it and it somehow ended-up in the wrong place)
Where I said this:

Q) Did Travis Wilson commit suicide because of Morgellons?
It is pointless to argue whether or not Travis Wilson committed suicide because he had Morgellons. If he did, he is neither the first nor the last. Regardless, I am unclear how Michael interpreted “The Wilson’s spent $14,000 after insurance last year on doctors and medicine” to say “He was a patient of Savely who oversaw $14,000 of his treatment.” That’s quite a twist, or lie.

He did not correct his blog entry which, from my perspective, sounds deceptive.

MHKS, I’m actually pretty good at reading-between-the-lines. I heard you earlier. I agree with much of what you said (about the meds) and I appreciate your concern.

Take Care,
Aherah

]]> By: Joy Pond http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2328 Joy Pond Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:42:49 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2328 To whom it may concern. I am a self dianosed Morgellons person with a long history of problems and no one to help with them. Fortunately, I have had a excellent doctor who listens carefully to what I say. The past year has proved very interesting as he put me on Zovirax an antiviral medication. Since then I have found water fleas, ostracod, nematodes, and snails exuding form my eyes along with the strange fibers you suggest. I am on my second go round with this medicaton, having 110 dayd of it at the end of last year. No doctor would proscribe it for me in spite of the fact that it was working and was a madication that can be taken forever. I recently went for cultures to be done on yeast, viral, bacterial, and fungus. Results are not yet back from that. I suspect that all of us have this in our bodies but are not affected unless the immune system is comprimised in some way. I have been fighting mine since I was 23 and am now almost 68. These fibers you hint at exude form everywhere on the body, but I have had a severe infection of the sinuses and this has been going on for years with no relief at all. I suggest the CDC look into water borne types of problems as well as insect bites. I know thsi is a virus of some kind as I am getting better daily and the blue fibers that you have found are now breaking apart and no longer in long strands at all times. I also have the white, clear, black(which is really blue under the microscope) and red strands. I am still finding tiny snails excuding with the mucus from my eyes but it is slowly improving. I have spent the past year looking for something that will tell my what this is and how to reat it. While fighting this disease, I have managed to rid myself of RA and Lupus. Which indicates to me that some antibiotics also work, wince I have had at least 8 years of those. Nothing has worked as well as the antiviral medication howeer. I am sorry that you are bothered with people too unintelligent to speak or write proper english. The CDC should be using me as a case study as I have been through it all. Thank you. To whom it may concern. I am a self dianosed Morgellons person with a long history of problems and no one to help with them. Fortunately, I have had a excellent doctor who listens carefully to what I say. The past year has proved very interesting as he put me on Zovirax an antiviral medication. Since then I have found water fleas, ostracod, nematodes, and snails exuding form my eyes along with the strange fibers you suggest. I am on my second go round with this medicaton, having 110 dayd of it at the end of last year. No doctor would proscribe it for me in spite of the fact that it was working and was a madication that can be taken forever. I recently went for cultures to be done on yeast, viral, bacterial, and fungus. Results are not yet back from that. I suspect that all of us have this in our bodies but are not affected unless the immune system is comprimised in some way. I have been fighting mine since I was 23 and am now almost 68. These fibers you hint at exude form everywhere on the body, but I have had a severe infection of the sinuses and this has been going on for years with no relief at all. I suggest the CDC look into water borne types of problems as well as insect bites. I know thsi is a virus of some kind as I am getting better daily and the blue fibers that you have found are now breaking apart and no longer in long strands at all times. I also have the white, clear, black(which is really blue under the microscope) and red strands. I am still finding tiny snails excuding with the mucus from my eyes but it is slowly improving. I have spent the past year looking for something that will tell my what this is and how to reat it. While fighting this disease, I have managed to rid myself of RA and Lupus. Which indicates to me that some antibiotics also work, wince I have had at least 8 years of those. Nothing has worked as well as the antiviral medication howeer. I am sorry that you are bothered with people too unintelligent to speak or write proper english. The CDC should be using me as a case study as I have been through it all. Thank you.

]]> By: MHKS http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2327 MHKS Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:40:36 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2327 I don't get it. Detracters of this site keep saying there is misinformation here and I have yet to see it. Further, any time Michael asks for someone to point out factual errors the accuser generally says something like "forget it, I don't have time for this," or gives a vague comeback that usually has nothing to do with the original post or complaint. Apart from the childish bickering that goes on here among the various "commentators", I haven't seen a post on this blog that is mean spirited or malicious in any way. Or is the problem simply that any suggestion that Morgellons is not a distinct disease is taken as an insult and therefore summarily dismissed as mean and evil? I have to say it again--if so-called Morgellons sufferers ever hope to be taken seriously by the medical establishment then they absolutely have to become comfortable with the idea that the condition will be scrutinized, certainly by professionals in the medical reseach field with far more experience than Michael. That is all this site does--it scrutinizes the information available about Morgellons and then presents the facts that currently exist. If the facts don't support the existence of a distinct disease then they don't. If they do, then they do. But if the mere suggestion that Morgellons is not a distinct disease causes proponents of it to shout "foul" then they must not have much faith in their cause. What do you think the CDC or the medical establishment does when they look at a disease like Morgellons? They employ scientific methods to figure out if indeed there is a true problem. Scepticism is part of this process, so get used to it. The facts will either support the claims of the MRF and its proponents or it won't. For heaven's sake, quit griping about this site being evil and either stop reading it or engage in a thoughtful debate about what your symptoms and experiences are. Morgellons has gotten a lot of interest in the media lately and that's only a good thing for those who are suffering. And all that said, I sincerely hope that all sufferers who read this blog (and of course those who don't as well) do find treatment and relief for whatever it is that is ailing them. Nobody deserves to suffer like this. I don’t get it. Detracters of this site keep saying there is misinformation here and I have yet to see it. Further, any time Michael asks for someone to point out factual errors the accuser generally says something like “forget it, I don’t have time for this,” or gives a vague comeback that usually has nothing to do with the original post or complaint.

Apart from the childish bickering that goes on here among the various “commentators”, I haven’t seen a post on this blog that is mean spirited or malicious in any way. Or is the problem simply that any suggestion that Morgellons is not a distinct disease is taken as an insult and therefore summarily dismissed as mean and evil?

I have to say it again–if so-called Morgellons sufferers ever hope to be taken seriously by the medical establishment then they absolutely have to become comfortable with the idea that the condition will be scrutinized, certainly by professionals in the medical reseach field with far more experience than Michael. That is all this site does–it scrutinizes the information available about Morgellons and then presents the facts that currently exist. If the facts don’t support the existence of a distinct disease then they don’t. If they do, then they do. But if the mere suggestion that Morgellons is not a distinct disease causes proponents of it to shout “foul” then they must not have much faith in their cause. What do you think the CDC or the medical establishment does when they look at a disease like Morgellons? They employ scientific methods to figure out if indeed there is a true problem. Scepticism is part of this process, so get used to it. The facts will either support the claims of the MRF and its proponents or it won’t.

For heaven’s sake, quit griping about this site being evil and either stop reading it or engage in a thoughtful debate about what your symptoms and experiences are. Morgellons has gotten a lot of interest in the media lately and that’s only a good thing for those who are suffering.

And all that said, I sincerely hope that all sufferers who read this blog (and of course those who don’t as well) do find treatment and relief for whatever it is that is ailing them. Nobody deserves to suffer like this.

]]> By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2325 Michael Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:26:27 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2325 Fibers in the eyes are not part of the Morgellons case definition. So you don't have Morgellons, as defined by the MRF. The fibers are real, the question is: where to the come from, and are they part of an illness? Perhaps you just need to change the filter on your AC? Or get a vacuum with a better filter? Fibers in the eyes are not part of the Morgellons case definition. So you don’t have Morgellons, as defined by the MRF.

The fibers are real, the question is: where to the come from, and are they part of an illness?

Perhaps you just need to change the filter on your AC? Or get a vacuum with a better filter?

]]> By: So sad http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2326 So sad Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:05:22 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/06/29/the-trouble-with-cotton-socks/#comment-2326 KT1106 call Dr. james matthews in Gaithersburg Maryland, he will help As for this board, run as fast as your fingers can move. These people are fraud's. They will try and make you feel like your "very real illness" is all in your mind. I could be wrong but I've heard this was a case of someone meeting a person with Morgellons and put on the dating brake, so to get close to the braker the very sick person is pretending the illness is DOP. Like I said I could be wrong and lots of bad info. passed around. This site is so sad, NO PAY HUH, JUST TREATING PEOPLE UGLY IS COMPENSATION, run from this site. Good luck to you. KT1106 call Dr. james matthews in Gaithersburg Maryland, he will help
As for this board, run as fast as your fingers can move.
These people are fraud’s. They will try and make you feel like your “very real illness” is all in your mind.
I could be wrong but I’ve heard this was a case of someone meeting a person with Morgellons and put on the dating brake, so to get close to the braker the very sick person is pretending the illness is DOP. Like I said I could be wrong and lots of bad info. passed around.
This site is so sad, NO PAY HUH, JUST TREATING PEOPLE UGLY IS COMPENSATION, run from this site. Good luck to you.

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