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		<title>By: Eric Goff</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Goff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ginger Savely is a fraud.
She is the fraud that does not know she is a fraud.
She overdiagnoses Lime Disease to push her own agenda.
When you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger Savely is a fraud.<br />
She is the fraud that does not know she is a fraud.<br />
She overdiagnoses Lime Disease to push her own agenda.<br />
When you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2543</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandi,  I know they are sick.  I just don&#039;t think there is any evidence that there is a new disease that creates fibers.  Obviously the symptoms are real.

If you treat &quot;hundreds&quot; of Morgellons patients, then you must be able to diagnose them.  What are the diagnostic criteria for Morgellons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandi,  I know they are sick.  I just don&#8217;t think there is any evidence that there is a new disease that creates fibers.  Obviously the symptoms are real.</p>
<p>If you treat &#8220;hundreds&#8221; of Morgellons patients, then you must be able to diagnose them.  What are the diagnostic criteria for Morgellons?</p>
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		<title>By: Mandi</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2542</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you people who think Morgellons is a &quot;made up&quot; disease really are (to put in plain language) STUPID!!  How in the world you would think that someone has this out of pure joy and delight is beyond me.  I work in an office where we treat hundreds of Morgellons patients, and the disease is real.  These people are sick and not crazy and until you know anything, and examine each and every person, you really should keep your mouth shut, because in the not too distant future, you will be sticking your foot in your mouth~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you people who think Morgellons is a &#8220;made up&#8221; disease really are (to put in plain language) STUPID!!  How in the world you would think that someone has this out of pure joy and delight is beyond me.  I work in an office where we treat hundreds of Morgellons patients, and the disease is real.  These people are sick and not crazy and until you know anything, and examine each and every person, you really should keep your mouth shut, because in the not too distant future, you will be sticking your foot in your mouth~</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2541</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Igi, I&#039;m sorry for not being clearer, the top post is actually:

http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/wymore-casey-morgellons-letter-to-doctors/

You commented on the bottom post of the main page, which has several posts on it.

And yes, feel free to email me photos.

morgellonswatch@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Igi, I&#8217;m sorry for not being clearer, the top post is actually:</p>
<p><a href="http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/wymore-casey-morgellons-letter-to-doctors/" rel="nofollow">http://morgellonswatch.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/wymore-casey-morgellons-letter-to-doctors/</a></p>
<p>You commented on the bottom post of the main page, which has several posts on it.</p>
<p>And yes, feel free to email me photos.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:morgellonswatch@gmail.com">morgellonswatch@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these people actually are sick.  Their symptoms are generally symptoms of a real disease, such as eczema with chronic fatigue syndrome.

Obviously from time to time, someone will come along with Munchausen&#039;s, but I can&#039;t give any specific examples.

I think you distinction between emerging and new does not hold water.  If it&#039;s &quot;emerging&quot;, that implies it was previously known about, and is just increasing in prevalence.   It&#039;s new to science.  Nobody has ever described a disease with fibers like this before.  It&#039;s new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these people actually are sick.  Their symptoms are generally symptoms of a real disease, such as eczema with chronic fatigue syndrome.</p>
<p>Obviously from time to time, someone will come along with Munchausen&#8217;s, but I can&#8217;t give any specific examples.</p>
<p>I think you distinction between emerging and new does not hold water.  If it&#8217;s &#8220;emerging&#8221;, that implies it was previously known about, and is just increasing in prevalence.   It&#8217;s new to science.  Nobody has ever described a disease with fibers like this before.  It&#8217;s new.</p>
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		<title>By: Igi Ydgi</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2539</link>
		<dc:creator>Igi Ydgi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgellons:

Didn&#039;t know I was in the wrong place, thanks.  I&#039;ll re-post some here so others will see it.

Emerging does not mean new:
&quot;Emerging&quot; means just that, it is coming-out.  The West Nile Virus is an emerging infection in the U.S and it&#039;s certainly not &quot;New&quot;.

Thanks for the correction.  Maybe I&#039;m wrong, I don&#039;t remember exactly where I was reading - but it seemed that you tended to liberally through out accusations impliing others (people I know @ M.R.F.) are being disingenuous in their statements and motives.  If you can&#039;t show a history of this behavior, or evidence --- than this is just  hitting below the belt (it&#039;s too easy to do).  What is the differnce between that and calling people liars.  I know you can&#039;t stop many other bloggers (can&#039;t reason with many of them either), but please try to stay above the bar.  My apologies if I&#039;m wrong.

For you and the rest, who still just don&#039;t get it.  This is not a &quot;skin problem&quot;, or irritation, or rash, or any other common skin infection or disorder!  Much more severe symtoms come with it.

IT  IS  D E B I L I T A T I N G ! ! !  --  GET IT ? ? ?

If I (and the other sufferers) could function and live our lives in anything close to a normal fashion, we would not be crying out-loud for relief and going on TV.  We would just be dealing with the irritations as best we could, like you everybody else.

Why would anyone (otherwise normal and successful) put themselves on TV to say; &quot;I&#039;m very sick, and I need some help, and I&#039;m not getting any relief&quot;?

Come down to earth people!!!

To say there must be other motives defies any common logic and a basic understanding of human nature.  These people have reputations in thier communities, why would thay risk that for a moment on TV?  Sure, many like a moment of fame; to testify as a witness to something, or to demonstrate something or someone they might be proud-of.  A desire to publicly say &quot;I&#039;m sick&quot;, just to get on TV?, NO-WAY !!!  Everybody (with a reputation) would choose a different line than that!

I have always hated going to doctors, and still do.  I waited until I was desparate for help.  That was 6-years ago, I&#039;m still just as desperate now.  By the way, I&#039;ve been diagnosed as having a dozen differing ailments, disorders, and/or infections, including tinea,  by dozens of different doctors each diagnoses to be rejected by next doctor and replaced with another.  I&#039;ve been on every antifungal drug available, no help.

I&#039;m lucky to have found a very well respected Dermatologist with a PhD at Major Medical University, for two years he&#039;s been trying to diagnose and treat me.  He is convinced that I have something (not dilutions) so far his lab does not have the ability to identify the composition of the fibers, but they are not saying that they are textile fibers, the lab reports term them
&quot;unidentifiable&quot;.

You want proof of my &quot;different&quot; fibers.  Can I send you photo&#039;s?, do you wand me to send you samples?  I&#039;m always short on time, but if you want them - I&#039;ll find time to, I don&#039;t have a web-site.

Igi Ydgi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgellons:</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t know I was in the wrong place, thanks.  I&#8217;ll re-post some here so others will see it.</p>
<p>Emerging does not mean new:<br />
&#8220;Emerging&#8221; means just that, it is coming-out.  The West Nile Virus is an emerging infection in the U.S and it&#8217;s certainly not &#8220;New&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for the correction.  Maybe I&#8217;m wrong, I don&#8217;t remember exactly where I was reading &#8211; but it seemed that you tended to liberally through out accusations impliing others (people I know @ M.R.F.) are being disingenuous in their statements and motives.  If you can&#8217;t show a history of this behavior, or evidence &#8212; than this is just  hitting below the belt (it&#8217;s too easy to do).  What is the differnce between that and calling people liars.  I know you can&#8217;t stop many other bloggers (can&#8217;t reason with many of them either), but please try to stay above the bar.  My apologies if I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>For you and the rest, who still just don&#8217;t get it.  This is not a &#8220;skin problem&#8221;, or irritation, or rash, or any other common skin infection or disorder!  Much more severe symtoms come with it.</p>
<p>IT  IS  D E B I L I T A T I N G ! ! !  &#8212;  GET IT ? ? ?</p>
<p>If I (and the other sufferers) could function and live our lives in anything close to a normal fashion, we would not be crying out-loud for relief and going on TV.  We would just be dealing with the irritations as best we could, like you everybody else.</p>
<p>Why would anyone (otherwise normal and successful) put themselves on TV to say; &#8220;I&#8217;m very sick, and I need some help, and I&#8217;m not getting any relief&#8221;?</p>
<p>Come down to earth people!!!</p>
<p>To say there must be other motives defies any common logic and a basic understanding of human nature.  These people have reputations in thier communities, why would thay risk that for a moment on TV?  Sure, many like a moment of fame; to testify as a witness to something, or to demonstrate something or someone they might be proud-of.  A desire to publicly say &#8220;I&#8217;m sick&#8221;, just to get on TV?, NO-WAY !!!  Everybody (with a reputation) would choose a different line than that!</p>
<p>I have always hated going to doctors, and still do.  I waited until I was desparate for help.  That was 6-years ago, I&#8217;m still just as desperate now.  By the way, I&#8217;ve been diagnosed as having a dozen differing ailments, disorders, and/or infections, including tinea,  by dozens of different doctors each diagnoses to be rejected by next doctor and replaced with another.  I&#8217;ve been on every antifungal drug available, no help.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m lucky to have found a very well respected Dermatologist with a PhD at Major Medical University, for two years he&#8217;s been trying to diagnose and treat me.  He is convinced that I have something (not dilutions) so far his lab does not have the ability to identify the composition of the fibers, but they are not saying that they are textile fibers, the lab reports term them<br />
&#8220;unidentifiable&#8221;.</p>
<p>You want proof of my &#8220;different&#8221; fibers.  Can I send you photo&#8217;s?, do you wand me to send you samples?  I&#8217;m always short on time, but if you want them &#8211; I&#8217;ll find time to, I don&#8217;t have a web-site.</p>
<p>Igi Ydgi</p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 21:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Nurse Savely and Dr. Stricker are lyme experts, (and it&#039;s been said that &quot;all lyme doctors&quot; charge stupendous fees, although I know nothing about such claims), being experts on it, one has to wonder why they seem to know less than the average person, or so it appears, in certain respects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Nurse Savely and Dr. Stricker are lyme experts, (and it&#8217;s been said that &#8220;all lyme doctors&#8221; charge stupendous fees, although I know nothing about such claims), being experts on it, one has to wonder why they seem to know less than the average person, or so it appears, in certain respects.</p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2537</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The explanation given for this can be found under the topic heading &quot;Case Definition&quot;, July 11th, 2006 at 10:38pm, followed by another post at 9:40 am. I&#039;m ill-equipped, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The explanation given for this can be found under the topic heading &#8220;Case Definition&#8221;, July 11th, 2006 at 10:38pm, followed by another post at 9:40 am. I&#8217;m ill-equipped, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2536</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction: The only service I &quot;can&quot; afford...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction: The only service I &#8220;can&#8221; afford&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/01/ginger-savely/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This more recent symptomology and the explanation for it fall short of proving anything except what this person has, which is still screaming out, same as it did upon the individual&#039;s arrival here. The only service I afford such a tortured state is to pray for those it&#039;s inflicted upon in real life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This more recent symptomology and the explanation for it fall short of proving anything except what this person has, which is still screaming out, same as it did upon the individual&#8217;s arrival here. The only service I afford such a tortured state is to pray for those it&#8217;s inflicted upon in real life.</p>
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