Comments on: Morgellons vs. the Ulcer http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/ Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:03:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: amused http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-18664 amused Tue, 29 Jan 2008 05:43:43 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-18664 I am just blown away by this site... it is pathetic... if you all are "WELL"... why the hell aren't you out LIVING your life VS trying to convince a bunch of sick individuals that you could care less about... that. "your right & they're wrong". The only LAUGHABLE ounce of semi credibility you receive is when, Sarah B., who really doesn't have the impressive credentials that she pretends to... adds in her simple 2-4 sentence responses in which she repeatedly brings up the "lack of peer reviewed evidence/info/WHATEVER! SOON-Ms. Sarah wanna B. will have all the literature she could possibly dream for her & her 'peers' (so she says/wishes) to review... The rest of the regulars on this site... well, even IF 'Morgellons' was something of a delusional nature... at least, those who say they are suffering with it have a reason/excuse to spend hours on line searching for answers and fueling their "so called" mentally ill minds with back & forth BS with people named "smileywhatever" & "tallcotton"... BUT-YOU ALL? What the hell is wrong with you that you waste your SELF proclaimed sound mind/life to live every spare second on line arguing with a group of people that YOU SAY are crazy. If you really believe that... back off... get a life. YOU are obviously a bit infatuated with these individuals & clearly NOT mentally stable yourself to live your life doing "this"... how about you go out and really make a difference... maybe you could buy some Girl Scout cookies or something & call it a night, month, year, life... Foolish people... so foolish... I am just blown away by this site… it is pathetic… if you all are “WELL”… why the hell aren’t you out LIVING your life VS trying to convince a bunch of sick individuals that you could care less about… that. “your right & they’re wrong”.

The only LAUGHABLE ounce of semi credibility you receive is when, Sarah B., who really doesn’t have the impressive credentials that she pretends to… adds in her simple 2-4 sentence responses in which she repeatedly brings up the “lack of peer reviewed evidence/info/WHATEVER!

SOON-Ms. Sarah wanna B. will have all the literature she could possibly dream for her & her ‘peers’ (so she says/wishes) to review…

The rest of the regulars on this site… well, even IF ‘Morgellons’ was something of a delusional nature… at least, those who say they are suffering with it have a reason/excuse to spend hours on line searching for answers and fueling their “so called” mentally ill minds with back & forth BS with people named “smileywhatever” & “tallcotton”… BUT-YOU ALL? What the hell is wrong with you that you waste your SELF proclaimed sound mind/life to live every spare second on line arguing with a group of people that YOU SAY are crazy.

If you really believe that… back off… get a life. YOU are obviously a bit infatuated with these individuals & clearly NOT mentally stable yourself to live your life doing “this”… how about you go out and really make a difference… maybe you could buy some Girl Scout cookies or something & call it a night, month, year, life…

Foolish people… so foolish…

]]> By: Matt http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-18468 Matt Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:37:18 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-18468 This board is quite obviously loused up with disinfornation agents trying their level best to smear the Morgellon's disease. How do you people live like that? Why else would you be here trying to 'debunk' this terrible disease? It is you who are the truly sick people here. You are perverted. You are lying for money. You're disgusting. This board is quite obviously loused up with disinfornation agents trying their level best to smear the Morgellon’s disease. How do you people live like that? Why else would you be here trying to ‘debunk’ this terrible disease? It is you who are the truly sick people here. You are perverted. You are lying for money. You’re disgusting.

]]> By: tallcotton http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-17290 tallcotton Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:08:03 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-17290 Have you explained your symptoms to a dermatologist? The people who "think" they have Morgellons, are actually suffering from a wide variety of both physical and mental disorders. We've studied just about every disease there is, and some that there aren't. It's best to communicate closely with your doctor and follow his recommendations. Have you explained your symptoms to a dermatologist? The people who “think” they have Morgellons, are actually suffering from a wide variety of both physical and mental disorders. We’ve studied just about every disease there is, and some that there aren’t. It’s best to communicate closely with your doctor and follow his recommendations.

]]> By: icecap http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-17067 icecap Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:04:27 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-17067 Has anyone looked into some type of keratin disorder?. I've had the rashes, the creeping and now these spider weblike strands of material popping out of my skin. The reason why I ask about keratin is because I've also found these "threads"growing out of the outer sheath (the clear glob of tissue found on the end of a plucked hair shaft) and the dermal papae on my hair. Also, the sheath of tissue surrounding the hair appears to change. First it becomes opaque then it turns clumpy then sheds in the form of thin fiber strands. The creeping sensation seems to come from these strands as they travel down the hair shaft and out to the scalp. Does anyone know if this is an altogether different condition? I've tried the standard dandruff and psoriasis treatments to no effect. Has anyone looked into some type of keratin disorder?. I’ve had the rashes, the creeping and now these spider weblike strands of material popping out of my skin. The reason why I ask about keratin is because I’ve also found these “threads”growing out of the outer sheath (the clear glob of tissue found on the end of a plucked hair shaft) and the dermal papae on my hair. Also, the sheath of tissue surrounding the hair appears to change. First it becomes opaque then it turns clumpy then sheds in the form of thin fiber strands. The creeping sensation seems to come from these strands as they travel down the hair shaft and out to the scalp. Does anyone know if this is an altogether different condition? I’ve tried the standard dandruff and psoriasis treatments to no effect.

]]> By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2840 Smileykins Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:35:14 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2840 David, if you just tuned in late, the best way to understand what's happened, is to go back to the beginning. This will help start you off: KJRH, in Tulsa, Oklahoma - Fall, 1994: http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/msg/2057.html Tulsa World, Tahlequah - January, 1995 http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/msg/2058.html National Examiner - late 1994 http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/msg/2059.html Go and look at all the media reports of DOP here: http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/index.html?1189477014 Now, go to the internet archive... http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Enter morgellons.org into the search and take your time (looking at it thoroughly), exploring their site from the start. Note the diabolical progression designed to lure these patients further into oblivion. David, if you just tuned in late, the best way to understand what’s happened, is to go back to the beginning. This will help start you off:

KJRH, in Tulsa, Oklahoma – Fall, 1994:

http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/msg/2057.html

Tulsa World, Tahlequah – January, 1995

http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/msg/2058.html

National Examiner – late 1994

http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/msg/2059.html

Go and look at all the media reports of DOP here:

http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/index.html?1189477014

Now, go to the internet archive…

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

Enter morgellons.org into the search and take your time (looking at it thoroughly), exploring their site from the start. Note the diabolical progression designed to lure these patients further into oblivion.

]]> By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2838 Michael Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:03:51 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2838 A wide variety. Dermatologists see these people all the time. They can see that some of the fibers are clearly hair or clothing (they often look exactly like the fibers on the cloths the person is actually wearing). Obviously you will occasionally find a fiber that is unidentified, but that's hardly odd. The fibers all seem to be different, and they are very small, which makes studying their composition rather hard. The first step would be to gather some statistics. I've studied the photos, most of them are identifiable. http://picasaweb.google.com/morgellonswatch/NotMorgellons A wide variety.

Dermatologists see these people all the time. They can see that some of the fibers are clearly hair or clothing (they often look exactly like the fibers on the cloths the person is actually wearing). Obviously you will occasionally find a fiber that is unidentified, but that’s hardly odd.

The fibers all seem to be different, and they are very small, which makes studying their composition rather hard. The first step would be to gather some statistics.

I’ve studied the photos, most of them are identifiable.
http://picasaweb.google.com/morgellonswatch/NotMorgellons

]]> By: David http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2857 David Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:47:45 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2857 How many people have actually pulled fibers from Morgellons claimants and studied their composition? How many people have actually pulled fibers from Morgellons claimants and studied their composition?

]]> By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2845 Michael Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:23:24 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2845 Dr. Hildegard Staninger, a purveyor of "far-infrared" saunas. http://www.dldewey.com/misc/stan.htm Read the whole article if you want even give this HDPE aspect any credence. I've seen no evidence that HDPE fibers are emerging from anyone, other than Staninger's claim, so it's hardly necessary to posit mechanisms. Occam would think it's more likely Staninger is a quack. Dr. Hildegard Staninger, a purveyor of “far-infrared” saunas.

http://www.dldewey.com/misc/stan.htm

Read the whole article if you want even give this HDPE aspect any credence. I’ve seen no evidence that HDPE fibers are emerging from anyone, other than Staninger’s claim, so it’s hardly necessary to posit mechanisms. Occam would think it’s more likely Staninger is a quack.

]]> By: David http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2844 David Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:12:05 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2844 Well first, who are they and why do you call them "dubious"? Second, regardless of your estimation of them, have you actually looked at the evidence they presented? If you have, did you cover that somewhere on this website that I'm not seeing? Third, HDPE doesn't appear to be fibrous from my own limited experience with the material unless it is manufactured to be fibrous. What FIBROUS sources would such material come from? An HDPE rope would not be like a hemp rope, which from my own experience I know can easily give you "splinters." David. Well first, who are they and why do you call them “dubious”?

Second, regardless of your estimation of them, have you actually looked at the evidence they presented? If you have, did you cover that somewhere on this website that I’m not seeing?

Third, HDPE doesn’t appear to be fibrous from my own limited experience with the material unless it is manufactured to be fibrous. What FIBROUS sources would such material come from? An HDPE rope would not be like a hemp rope, which from my own experience I know can easily give you “splinters.”

David.

]]> By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2843 Michael Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:01:01 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/02/morgellons-vs-the-ulcer/#comment-2843 It's true that some rather dubious "scientists" have claimed this. HDPE is used for ropes and tarpaulins, as well as garden furniture and, curious enough, hot tubs. It’s true that some rather dubious “scientists” have claimed this. HDPE is used for ropes and tarpaulins, as well as garden furniture and, curious enough, hot tubs.

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