Comments on: “This” Disease http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/ Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gillian - Australia http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21406 Gillian - Australia Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:02:10 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21406 ....and this Genetically modified foods -- food for thought http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/172_04_210200/huppleed/leeder.html Genetically modified foods -- safety and regulatory issues http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/172_04_210200/huppleed/huppatz.html Monsanto Australia Ltd. http://www.monsanto.com.au/content/cotton/rr_cotton/rarmp.pdf Monarch butterflies and genetically modified corn http://www.biotechnology.gov.au/index.cfm?event=object.showContent&objectID=D31ABCB3-BCD6-81AC-1E3E4ACBA3E08DA8 The World Rots Faster as Global Warming Fuels Fungi http://www.livescience.com/environment/070405_fungus_fruiting.html ….and this

Genetically modified foods — food for thought
http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/172_04_210200/huppleed/leeder.html

Genetically modified foods — safety and regulatory issues
http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/172_04_210200/huppleed/huppatz.html

Monsanto Australia Ltd.
http://www.monsanto.com.au/content/cotton/rr_cotton/rarmp.pdf

Monarch butterflies and genetically modified corn
http://www.biotechnology.gov.au/index.cfm?event=object.showContent&objectID=D31ABCB3-BCD6-81AC-1E3E4ACBA3E08DA8

The World Rots Faster as Global Warming Fuels Fungi
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070405_fungus_fruiting.html

]]> By: Gillian - Australia http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21405 Gillian - Australia Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:27:08 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21405 David, Would this be something like what you were asserting too? .... Stamp out superbugs or pay the price, govts warned http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/07/2296199.htm David,

Would this be something like what you were asserting too?

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Stamp out superbugs or pay the price, govts warned
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/07/2296199.htm

]]> By: sarah http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21383 sarah Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:39:04 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21383 David, Clearly, your post was not directed to me, but I am curious about some of your assertions. Collembola eat plants (fungi). Where have they been proven to be parasites of amphibians or horses? Links to the answers will suffice. I am also curious that you say "I can tell you now that the CDC is going to come up with NOTHING." I guess that their hypothesis is, "is Morgellons a distinct medical condition?" So one of the answers to that question could be no, or it could be yes. Would you only be satisfied if their answer was yes, and then, if the answer was no, do you automatically assume there is a conspiracy? David,

Clearly, your post was not directed to me, but I am curious about some of your assertions.

Collembola eat plants (fungi). Where have they been proven to be parasites of amphibians or horses? Links to the answers will suffice.

I am also curious that you say “I can tell you now that the CDC is going to come up with NOTHING.” I guess that their hypothesis is, “is Morgellons a distinct medical condition?” So one of the answers to that question could be no, or it could be yes. Would you only be satisfied if their answer was yes, and then, if the answer was no, do you automatically assume there is a conspiracy?

]]> By: Gillian - Australia http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21381 Gillian - Australia Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:05:23 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21381 <blockquote>David said: But I do fear for those who do not realize what they are dealing with. I can tell you now that the CDC is going to come up with NOTHING.</blockquote> What is it David that we are dealing with? Thanks Gillian

David said:
But I do fear for those who do not realize what they are dealing with. I can tell you now that the CDC is going to come up with NOTHING.

What is it David that we are dealing with?

Thanks
Gillian

]]> By: Gillian - Australia http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21377 Gillian - Australia Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:29:56 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21377 Happy 4th July! Happy 4th July!

]]> By: david http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21362 david Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:34:28 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-21362 Dear Smileykins. You are employing immature psychological techniques. Accuse the victim of something ridiculous. Collembola have been proven to be parasites of amphibians, and horses. We are somewhere in between, as horses are more evolved than us, and amphibians are an archaic dead ended species. I, personally am not afraid of Collembola. I had never heard of Collembola before reading the NPA report. But I do fear for those who do not realize what they are dealing with. I can tell you now that the CDC is going to come up with NOTHING. Talking about FEAR, why is the CDC afraid to do skin scrapings? After all, few of the victims have had scrapings. So why not do them now? Dear Smileykins.
You are employing immature psychological techniques. Accuse the victim of something ridiculous. Collembola have been proven to be parasites of amphibians, and horses. We are somewhere in between, as horses are more evolved than us, and amphibians are an archaic dead ended species.
I, personally am not afraid of Collembola. I had never heard of Collembola before reading the NPA report. But I do fear for those who do not realize what they are dealing with. I can tell you now that the CDC is going to come up with NOTHING.

Talking about FEAR, why is the CDC afraid to do skin scrapings? After all, few of the victims have had scrapings. So why not do them now?

]]> By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-18820 Smileykins Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:43:40 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-18820 I gather that you're scared of collembola, David, which is something that quite a few "morgellons disease" patients are afraid of. I feel certain that there is no reason, outside of a phobia, to be afraid of such innocuous little creatures. I gather that you’re scared of collembola, David, which is something that quite a few “morgellons disease” patients are afraid of. I feel certain that there is no reason, outside of a phobia, to be afraid of such innocuous little creatures.

]]> By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-18819 Smileykins Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:32:24 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-18819 Excuse me for applying logic, David. You'd said # david on 27 Jan 2008 at 11:55 pm <blockquote>Dear Smilekins then you think the US military bio-warfare program is a joke too. I was not presenting a theory.. Just facts.</blockquote> After reading excerpts of the report you referenced, I fail seeing that what those authors wrote is factual evidence. Did you not read the Asian Times' article in the link that I gave you, David? I also saw no reason for your concern about any of it, unless you're an older Korean guy who'd thought that had happened to him back during the war. On a similar (but related) note, logic also tells me that some of the people considering themselves to be victims of "morgellons disease" would not be excited over news, for themselves, about discoveries being made in the treatment of HIV and AIDS, unless they have HIV or AIDS. That's how logic works. So, I hope that you'll excuse me if you're not an older Korean guy who picked up a disease from mites indigenous to your area during the war, thinking that you, instead, got something from mere rumors that the US military had anything to do with it. Regardless, neither that, nor HIV, nor AIDS, is anything new. Can you explain why you, or anyone else, might possibly think that such things are related to what you all seem to think is a new thing called, "morgellons disease"? Thank you, Smileykins Excuse me for applying logic, David. You’d said

# david on 27 Jan 2008 at 11:55 pm

Dear Smilekins

then you think the US military bio-warfare program is a joke too. I was not presenting a theory.. Just facts.

After reading excerpts of the report you referenced, I fail seeing that what those authors wrote is factual evidence. Did you not read the Asian Times’ article in the link that I gave you, David? I also saw no reason for your concern about any of it, unless you’re an older Korean guy who’d thought that had happened to him back during the war.

On a similar (but related) note, logic also tells me that some of the people considering themselves to be victims of “morgellons disease” would not be excited over news, for themselves, about discoveries being made in the treatment of HIV and AIDS, unless they have HIV or AIDS.

That’s how logic works. So, I hope that you’ll excuse me if you’re not an older Korean guy who picked up a disease from mites indigenous to your area during the war, thinking that you, instead, got something from mere rumors that the US military had anything to do with it.

Regardless, neither that, nor HIV, nor AIDS, is anything new. Can you explain why you, or anyone else, might possibly think that such things are related to what you all seem to think is a new thing called, “morgellons disease”?

Thank you,
Smileykins

]]> By: sarahbionedunn http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-18813 sarahbionedunn Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:43:07 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-18813 David said: "No theory in the world is a joke until proven wrong. It is not enough to say it is wrong. It has to be proven wrong. " David, that's just now how science works. A theory is wrong until you prove it right. When you do a study, you have two hypothesis, the null hypothesis (which assume whatever you're trying to prove is wrong) and the alternative hypothesis (which assumes that whatever you're trying to prove is not proven wrong.... not even necessarily that it is right). "Morgellons is not a joke, even tho, a television program (ER maybe), snickered about it in one telecast. You cannot disprove a theory by calling it a joke. That is an immature schoolyard tactics." Yeah, those schoolyard tactics.... like animating pins going through people's heads. But who does that? ;) David said: “No theory in the world is a joke until proven wrong. It is not enough to say it is wrong. It has to be proven wrong. ”

David, that’s just now how science works. A theory is wrong until you prove it right. When you do a study, you have two hypothesis, the null hypothesis (which assume whatever you’re trying to prove is wrong) and the alternative hypothesis (which assumes that whatever you’re trying to prove is not proven wrong…. not even necessarily that it is right).

“Morgellons is not a joke, even tho, a television program (ER maybe), snickered about it in one telecast. You cannot disprove a theory by calling it a joke. That is an immature schoolyard tactics.”

Yeah, those schoolyard tactics…. like animating pins going through people’s heads. But who does that? ;)

]]> By: david http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-18761 david Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:23:09 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/04/this-disease/#comment-18761 No theory in the world is a joke until proven wrong. It is not enough to say it is wrong. It has to be proven wrong. Morgellons is not a joke, even tho, a television program (ER maybe), snickered about it in one telecast. You cannot disprove a theory by calling it a joke. That is an immature schoolyard tactics. And do you really think that entomological entities, have to clear customs? After the Korean air drops, collembola infestations began to show up in Eastern Europe, then moved on to Northern and Western Europe. From there, it could easily have found its way to N.America. I don't have to be Korean to talk about the Korean War, do I. I'm not religious, but you know it does say "The sins of the fathers, will be visited on the sons" No theory in the world is a joke until proven wrong. It is not enough to say it is wrong. It has to be proven wrong. Morgellons is not a joke, even tho, a television program (ER maybe), snickered about it in one telecast. You cannot disprove a theory by calling it a joke. That is an immature schoolyard tactics.

And do you really think that entomological entities, have to clear customs? After the Korean air drops, collembola infestations began to show up in Eastern Europe, then moved on to Northern and Western Europe. From there, it could easily have found its way to N.America. I don’t have to be Korean to talk about the Korean War, do I.

I’m not religious, but you know it does say “The sins of the fathers, will be visited on the sons”

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