Comments on: Morgellons Photos http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/ Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:10:26 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Angel http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22880 Angel Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:18:20 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22880 I am new to this whole conversation but what i am feeling is very real. I feel things Crawling on my ears, eyelids legs and body it started last week Friday after getting my hair done, this person who was doing my hair used some kind of fog insect control for roaches I never felt the same there after. I am scared to even talk about it afraid anyone would say am going crazy. I don't know what the feeling is but is making my life a living hell. I am new to this whole conversation but what i am feeling is very real. I feel things Crawling on my ears, eyelids legs and body it started last week Friday after getting my hair done, this person who was doing my hair used some kind of fog insect control for roaches I never felt the same there after. I am scared to even talk about it afraid anyone would say am going crazy. I don’t know what the feeling is but is making my life a living hell.

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By: Alison http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22815 Alison Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:21:53 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22815 please help me too for i am with red and i feel them ghey are strong - i live on invermectin i do the silver i do cleasings i dont eat sugar rice i have done the clay the tea tree garlic oregano oil the baths with sea salt i have nothing but oraganic - i have white threads now comin out after baths?/ I am scared for my children also have the fibers in saliva and snots it attacks when immune is down or do opiots i belive it all and it is scarie shit i remember in 2005 when i got a bite on my foot an there was nothing there and shit it felt like a green head bite~! a pimple like thing formed on my head after i had a heat rash for a day and then this year it takes over on my neck my lymph nodes have been swollen for a month and half i feel i am at teh end of my like there strong and i have tried the equine all oxi ben fenben the invermectin is bewst topically and orally- this is contagious i know for my kids have - the microscope dont lie is this in the water and foods for it has 3 different cycles its strings are tehse from the combolla pest webs from them to increase there poplulation within aer they dead when they come out i have seen teh fibers connect and move doesnt sound dead to me- this world is crazy and to belive cd and the mass is nuts for itf one has this thye know this is a X- file and there not right this is sooo painful. God be with us please help me too for i am with red and i feel them ghey are strong – i live on invermectin i do the silver i do cleasings i dont eat sugar rice
i have done the clay the tea tree garlic oregano oil the baths with sea salt i have nothing but oraganic – i have white threads now comin out after baths?/ I am scared for my children also have the fibers in saliva and snots it attacks when immune is down or do opiots i belive it all and it is scarie shit i remember in 2005 when i got a bite on my foot an there was nothing there and shit it felt like a green head bite~! a pimple like thing formed on my head after i had a heat rash for a day and then this year it takes over on my neck my lymph nodes have been swollen for a month and half i feel i am at teh end of my like there strong and i have tried the equine all oxi ben fenben the invermectin is bewst topically and orally- this is contagious i know for my kids have – the microscope dont lie is this in the water and foods for it has 3 different cycles its strings are tehse from the combolla pest webs from them to increase there poplulation within aer they dead when they come out i have seen teh fibers connect and move doesnt sound dead to me- this world is crazy and to belive cd and the mass is nuts for itf one has this thye know this is a X- file and there not right this is sooo painful. God be with us

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By: RED http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22764 RED Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:05:56 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22764 What the hell i personally wanat to thank you for now i dont feel so alone thisis hurtin my neck and i have huge craters l7 on my head and this is what i get when i dig in them its awful they are controllin my life i am in so much pain alone What the hell i personally wanat to thank you for now i dont feel so alone thisis hurtin my neck and i have huge craters l7 on my head and this is what i get when i dig in them its awful they are controllin my life i am in so much pain
alone

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By: David http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22626 David Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:18:55 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22626 Have to agree with Michael on that one. Morgellons first started out as the "fiber disease", which was very intriquing to say the least. But the ones who believe in it have added in WAY too many symptoms now....everything from the initial fibers, to little animals living in their noses, thru their DNA changing to plant-like biology, & including little thingies that supposedly can't be pulled out of the body by a Mack truck. This is the very reason the Morgellons community isn't being taken serious by those who have the knowledge & resources to do something about it. Morgellons has turned into pretty much a cult, with rabid followers who won't accept ANY answer other than the one they want to hear. And the saddest part is that people with REAL & ALREADY KNOWN diseases often fall easily for their rants & conspiracys.....when they could most likely find a cure for whatever disease they DO have by using resources other than the Morgellons forums. Have to agree with Michael on that one. Morgellons first started out as the “fiber disease”, which was very intriquing to say the least.

But the ones who believe in it have added in WAY too many symptoms now….everything from the initial fibers, to little animals living in their noses, thru their DNA changing to plant-like biology, & including little thingies that supposedly can’t be pulled out of the body by a Mack truck.

This is the very reason the Morgellons community isn’t being taken serious by those who have the knowledge & resources to do something about it. Morgellons has turned into pretty much a cult, with rabid followers who won’t accept ANY answer other than the one they want to hear.

And the saddest part is that people with REAL & ALREADY KNOWN diseases often fall easily for their rants & conspiracys…..when they could most likely find a cure for whatever disease they DO have by using resources other than the Morgellons forums.

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By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22622 Michael Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:13:17 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22622 Hi Gillian. No, there's nothing on the CDC's investigation in the media. There is unlikely to be until they release some report. The likely outcome is that they are going to say that there is not a new distinct disease, and that the fibers are unconnected environmental fibers. I wish you well Gillian. You have ups and downs, and I just hope the future holds more ups for you. Hi Gillian. No, there’s nothing on the CDC’s investigation in the media. There is unlikely to be until they release some report. The likely outcome is that they are going to say that there is not a new distinct disease, and that the fibers are unconnected environmental fibers.

I wish you well Gillian. You have ups and downs, and I just hope the future holds more ups for you.

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By: Gillian http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22604 Gillian Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:27:22 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22604 Morgellons is NOT an 'unshakeable' belief. The CDC do NOT investigate 'unshakeable" beliefs. Michael, Is there any news from the CDC in the US newspapers at present. Thanks Gillian. Morgellons is NOT an ‘unshakeable’ belief.

The CDC do NOT investigate ‘unshakeable” beliefs.

Michael,

Is there any news from the CDC in the US newspapers at present.

Thanks
Gillian.

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By: Gillian http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22598 Gillian Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:14:49 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22598 Let's Talk Morgellons http://www.dailysciencedose.com/lets-talk-morgellons/ Let’s Talk Morgellons
http://www.dailysciencedose.com/lets-talk-morgellons/

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By: katiejill http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22552 katiejill Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:41:05 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22552 Hi again, in addition to trying to get over this stuff, I've been writing a lot and have my own little library group. It's not totally devoid of the signs of classic DP, but then when I read the table of symptoms, they sound like a lot of people who don't know each other describe pretty much the same set of symptoms, and have been flexible enough to seek the advice of several medical professionals who either ridiculed them, scared them, or refused to see them at all (can you imagine a professional person behaving that way?) I am curious as to how the hippocratic oath could have such a vacuum around people who present/declare a particular set of symptoms. No one has a problem with psoriasis, toenail fungus, athletes foot and crotch rot, and of course eczema, all of which are caused by organisms, and all of which get under the skin. Obviously any infection caused by a fungus or bacteria or virus is caused by a living creature, which treatment is designed to kill so that the symptoms of their presence will go away. Even scabies, though it is handled hush hush, and lice, the same, carry less stigma than morgellons. This seems to be the only one of all of these in which if a patient 1) describes symptoms, 2) has been desperate enough/had the initiative to learn about their condition to the best of their ability, 3) hopes their personal research will aid the doctor in diagnosing them properly and eliminating the torture, and 4) genuinely asks for help, then the patient is considered to be a) presumptuous (the nerve, trying to figure out for themselves what they had before dealing with the expensive and convoluted medical system). b) stupid for the same basic reason, c) inflexible because they do not think that they are crazy, and, of course, d) crazy is treated in anything like this fashion. It is tantamount to having back pain that no one can find a reason for. The person is still hurting, even if other people cannot figure out why. This institutional disparity is no more than institutional discrimination on the basis of the person's belief that they may have morgellons because their symptoms seem to match a list of symptoms others experience. And institutional discrimination is just as wrong, even when so well established, as personal discrimination. What really really gets me is that I don't understand the fuss. Is there a site like this for the other maladies mentioned above? Is there a scabies, psoriasis, lice, eczema watch blog? Why, oh why, do you give a hoot? I will leave you with this thought: Remember the question about whether the tree made a sound if no one was there to hear it fall? Well, the answer is this: The tree made a sound when it fell, whether we heard it or not. And it sure as heck fell. katiejill Hi again, in addition to trying to get over this stuff, I’ve been writing a lot and have my own little library group. It’s not totally devoid of the signs of classic DP, but then when I read the table of symptoms, they sound like a lot of people who don’t know each other describe pretty much the same set of symptoms, and have been flexible enough to seek the advice of several medical professionals who either ridiculed them, scared them, or refused to see them at all (can you imagine a professional person behaving that way?) I am curious as to how the hippocratic oath could have such a vacuum around people who present/declare a particular set of symptoms.

No one has a problem with psoriasis, toenail fungus, athletes foot and crotch rot, and of course eczema, all of which are caused by organisms, and all of which get under the skin. Obviously any infection caused by a fungus or bacteria or virus is caused by a living creature, which treatment is designed to kill so that the symptoms of their presence will go away.

Even scabies, though it is handled hush hush, and lice, the same, carry less stigma than morgellons.

This seems to be the only one of all of these in which if a patient
1) describes symptoms,
2) has been desperate enough/had the initiative to learn about their condition to the best of their ability,
3) hopes their personal research will aid the doctor in diagnosing them properly and eliminating the torture, and
4) genuinely asks for help,
then the patient is considered to be
a) presumptuous (the nerve, trying to figure out for themselves what they had before dealing with the expensive and convoluted medical system).
b) stupid for the same basic reason,
c) inflexible because they do not think that they are crazy, and, of course,
d) crazy
is treated in anything like this fashion. It is tantamount to having back pain that no one can find a reason for. The person is still hurting, even if other people cannot figure out why.
This institutional disparity is no more than institutional discrimination on the basis of the person’s belief that they may have morgellons because their symptoms seem to match a list of symptoms others experience.
And institutional discrimination is just as wrong, even when so well established, as personal discrimination.
What really really gets me is that I don’t understand the fuss. Is there a site like this for the other maladies mentioned above? Is there a scabies, psoriasis, lice, eczema watch blog?
Why, oh why, do you give a hoot?
I will leave you with this thought: Remember the question about whether the tree made a sound if no one was there to hear it fall?
Well, the answer is this:
The tree made a sound when it fell, whether we heard it or not.
And it sure as heck fell.
katiejill

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By: katiejill http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22031 katiejill Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:05:58 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22031 Thx lp, really I haven't, it's what the things that come out of me look like that has caused some other folks to suggest that it might be. Me, I'm not sure. What comes out of me has these forms: (1) a cottony white ovoid shape. Egg probably. This does not have anything but a cottony texture, no "spaghetti legs" or thready looking things coming out of it. (2) the life cycle seems to have options at the next stage. Not sure if it is a response to external stimuli that determines which, but here are the two versions I see. (a) Usually the next thing that happens is that some clear and some tinted "spaghetti legs" (thready looking things) start growing out of the ovoid shape. Some but not all of the "legs" have "feet" similar to those on a gun tripod, and also flat bottomed. These usually have at least a little red at the foot end, sometimes the red extends the full length of the "leg" which may (or may not) indicate that these are used for feeding, though if so, I'm not sure how they get to the blood. (b) Very rarely one of the cottony eggs will sprout two stiff little (whiskers? swords? barbels?) on either side of one end of the cottony ovoid (egg?). In each case that I have seen this, I found the critter when it was delivering a particularly vicious biting attack (on me, of course) and, since I do not know for sure that the egg can deliver an attack. I am falling asleep while I'm typing. I will try to pick this up again in a couple of days. Thanks again, Michael, for this forum, and thanks to the others for helping me home in on what this might be. Thx lp, really I haven’t, it’s what the things that come out of me look like that has caused some other folks to suggest that it might be. Me, I’m not sure. What comes out of me has these forms:

(1) a cottony white ovoid shape. Egg probably. This does not have anything but a cottony texture, no “spaghetti legs” or thready looking things coming out of it.

(2) the life cycle seems to have options at the next stage. Not sure if it is a response to external stimuli that determines which, but here are the two versions I see.

(a) Usually the next thing that happens is that some clear and some tinted “spaghetti legs” (thready looking things) start growing out of the ovoid shape. Some but not all of the “legs” have “feet” similar to those on a gun tripod, and also flat bottomed. These usually have at least a little red at the foot end, sometimes the red extends the full length of the “leg” which may (or may not) indicate that these are used for feeding, though if so, I’m not sure how they get to the blood.

(b) Very rarely one of the cottony eggs will sprout two stiff little (whiskers? swords? barbels?) on either side of one end of the cottony ovoid (egg?). In each case that I have seen this, I found the critter when it was delivering a particularly vicious biting attack (on me, of course) and, since I do not know for sure that the egg can deliver an attack.

I am falling asleep while I’m typing. I will try to pick this up again in a couple of days. Thanks again, Michael, for this forum, and thanks to the others for helping me home in on what this might be.

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By: lp http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/comment-page-5/#comment-22022 lp Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:02:32 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/07/13/morgellons-photos/#comment-22022 Katiejill I think you are on the wrong site,, I looked at those pictures on your last comment ,when my wife went through it ,it was open self induced sores ,yours is red spots .SO you have been to a dr. with this ,you are not describing fibres coming out like others ,why would you diagnose yourself with morgellons ? Katiejill I think you are on the wrong site,, I looked at those pictures on your last comment ,when my wife went through it ,it was open self induced sores ,yours is red spots .SO you have been to a dr. with this ,you are not describing fibres coming out like others ,why would you diagnose yourself with morgellons ?

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