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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7006</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry about the typos above. Msc&#039;s comments pertaining to Justice have haunted me. So, I went back and painstakingly tried to pull out anything of actual relevance from Justice&#039;s comments as to what her situation is.  I think it&#039;s clear, now.

&lt;b&gt;Msc!!!  Wake up and pay strict attention to this. PLEASE&lt;/b&gt;

Justice said her neutrophils are 1500 and that she&#039;d &quot;had&quot; melanoma. Msc, she needs help, badly. Completely dismiss what I&#039;d said about rosacea. Do you know anything about it, from when she&#039;d said that she was &lt;b&gt;a melanoma patient two years before using Renova&lt;/b&gt;, and, the cat scans that she said &lt;b&gt;no one will answer her questions&lt;/b&gt; about?

&lt;b&gt;PLEASE TRY TO FOCUS. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS.&lt;/b&gt;

DOES JUSTICE HAVE AN ONCOLOGIST?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry about the typos above. Msc&#8217;s comments pertaining to Justice have haunted me. So, I went back and painstakingly tried to pull out anything of actual relevance from Justice&#8217;s comments as to what her situation is.  I think it&#8217;s clear, now.</p>
<p><b>Msc!!!  Wake up and pay strict attention to this. PLEASE</b></p>
<p>Justice said her neutrophils are 1500 and that she&#8217;d &#8220;had&#8221; melanoma. Msc, she needs help, badly. Completely dismiss what I&#8217;d said about rosacea. Do you know anything about it, from when she&#8217;d said that she was <b>a melanoma patient two years before using Renova</b>, and, the cat scans that she said <b>no one will answer her questions</b> about?</p>
<p><b>PLEASE TRY TO FOCUS. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS.</b></p>
<p>DOES JUSTICE HAVE AN ONCOLOGIST?</p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7007</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 07:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, now let&#039;s hang on there, Msc.  It had been impossible to follow what Justice had said about herself, in the first place. Did your friend read the warnings about Renova before she used it, and did she closely adhere to the directions?

I&#039;d used some Retin-A (same thing), years ago, that was given to me in the form of a box full of sample tubes, by a relative who&#039;d had to stop using it. They didn&#039;t want to just throw it out, or have it to go to waste, when they were placed on some antibiotic, and had to quit using it, they had said.  I didn&#039;t even have a product enclosure to read from, but I knew from magazine articles what precautions to take with it. I&#039;d had no ill effects, whatsoever.

Justice didn&#039;t misunderstand, by seeing the words, &quot;retin-a&quot;, and put it into her eyes, did she?  It is not even supposed to be used near the eyes, and one should thoroughly wash their hands after applying it.

Please, look at the link I had provided above. It is clearly evident, from Justice&#039;s comments, and now, yours, that something is terribly wrong.  Can you provide us with the sources from where you got such unusual information, please?

It is very sad, that whatever has occurred to Justice, but whatever it is, as far as it relates to her skin problem, as you are both claiming, it is related to her use of Renova.  Millions of people have used it, according to its directions, and never had any problems.

I don&#039;t know what to tell you.  Does she not know to go to an eye doctor for problems with her eyes? Please explain that to her.

Hang on a second.  Has she ever been diagnosed with Rosacea?  I sure don&#039;t want to confuse you any further, but y&#039;all sure do need someone to throw you a rope from somewhere.  If no lawyer thinks that Justice has any grounds to sue, I&#039;d have to agree.

Please, ask her what she used Renova &amp; Accutane for; if she&#039;d followed all the directions, closely, and fully;  if she was diagnosed with Rosacea; and, look at this, IF she was......

&lt;b&gt;Ocular Rosacea&lt;/b&gt;   http://www.emedicine.com/OPH/topic115.htm

Many people who think they have &quot;morgellons disease&quot;, anyway, have terrible problems with their eyes, and report corneal ulcers.  I wish Justice good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, now let&#8217;s hang on there, Msc.  It had been impossible to follow what Justice had said about herself, in the first place. Did your friend read the warnings about Renova before she used it, and did she closely adhere to the directions?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d used some Retin-A (same thing), years ago, that was given to me in the form of a box full of sample tubes, by a relative who&#8217;d had to stop using it. They didn&#8217;t want to just throw it out, or have it to go to waste, when they were placed on some antibiotic, and had to quit using it, they had said.  I didn&#8217;t even have a product enclosure to read from, but I knew from magazine articles what precautions to take with it. I&#8217;d had no ill effects, whatsoever.</p>
<p>Justice didn&#8217;t misunderstand, by seeing the words, &#8220;retin-a&#8221;, and put it into her eyes, did she?  It is not even supposed to be used near the eyes, and one should thoroughly wash their hands after applying it.</p>
<p>Please, look at the link I had provided above. It is clearly evident, from Justice&#8217;s comments, and now, yours, that something is terribly wrong.  Can you provide us with the sources from where you got such unusual information, please?</p>
<p>It is very sad, that whatever has occurred to Justice, but whatever it is, as far as it relates to her skin problem, as you are both claiming, it is related to her use of Renova.  Millions of people have used it, according to its directions, and never had any problems.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what to tell you.  Does she not know to go to an eye doctor for problems with her eyes? Please explain that to her.</p>
<p>Hang on a second.  Has she ever been diagnosed with Rosacea?  I sure don&#8217;t want to confuse you any further, but y&#8217;all sure do need someone to throw you a rope from somewhere.  If no lawyer thinks that Justice has any grounds to sue, I&#8217;d have to agree.</p>
<p>Please, ask her what she used Renova &amp; Accutane for; if she&#8217;d followed all the directions, closely, and fully;  if she was diagnosed with Rosacea; and, look at this, IF she was&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Ocular Rosacea</b>   <a href="http://www.emedicine.com/OPH/topic115.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.emedicine.com/OPH/topic115.htm</a></p>
<p>Many people who think they have &#8220;morgellons disease&#8221;, anyway, have terrible problems with their eyes, and report corneal ulcers.  I wish Justice good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: msc</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7008</link>
		<dc:creator>msc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>msc
I need to correct an error on my blog, the polymer co. from
Redwood Ca. is Advanced Polymers Sys. Inc.  New information
has surface on the syntetic retinoids used in renova and what
retinoids are derived from.  They use bacteriorodopsin to
make retinoids.  As stated before leithins used in this cream
induces bacteria, the methane used and the prednolone shot, per a nurse makes bacteria mutate, the body also produces
natural methane which causes bad breath.  You combine polymerization, ligands that produce toxic atomic and electronic clouds and chemicals producing oxidated vapors,
phosophurs ligands with claws, what do you think happens to the patients.  you have millions of people buying this product and the majority won&#039;t know it is happening to them unless they are allergic to the chemicals used, that does not
mean that they are not infected.  and if they are infected their physicians would have treated them the same way justice&#039;s physicians treated her.  you have dermatologists refusing to do biopsies and cultures and blood and urine tests for the toxic chemicals in this product, all who advertise this cream and dispense it to patients, which makes them liable for a lawsuit, so of course they are telling patients it is their imagination.  asked the fda how this cream was ever approved when kligman was banned.  how is fungus  and genetically altered bacteria being put in a product?  justices eyes show an infection but no meds no tests done to find out what it is, staph infections are infectious. ligands spin in clouds and move in open space onto others.  i have seen the creatures with my eyes, others have seen them and wrote letters to judges and doctors asking for tests to be done, others stating they have same symptoms.  we have a huge problem here.  why can&#039;t this family get an attorney to handle her case for the scars, blurred vision burnt corneas that accutane and isotretinoin caused.  attorneys know from chemical blloks and pdr books, are they afraid of being infected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>msc<br />
I need to correct an error on my blog, the polymer co. from<br />
Redwood Ca. is Advanced Polymers Sys. Inc.  New information<br />
has surface on the syntetic retinoids used in renova and what<br />
retinoids are derived from.  They use bacteriorodopsin to<br />
make retinoids.  As stated before leithins used in this cream<br />
induces bacteria, the methane used and the prednolone shot, per a nurse makes bacteria mutate, the body also produces<br />
natural methane which causes bad breath.  You combine polymerization, ligands that produce toxic atomic and electronic clouds and chemicals producing oxidated vapors,<br />
phosophurs ligands with claws, what do you think happens to the patients.  you have millions of people buying this product and the majority won&#8217;t know it is happening to them unless they are allergic to the chemicals used, that does not<br />
mean that they are not infected.  and if they are infected their physicians would have treated them the same way justice&#8217;s physicians treated her.  you have dermatologists refusing to do biopsies and cultures and blood and urine tests for the toxic chemicals in this product, all who advertise this cream and dispense it to patients, which makes them liable for a lawsuit, so of course they are telling patients it is their imagination.  asked the fda how this cream was ever approved when kligman was banned.  how is fungus  and genetically altered bacteria being put in a product?  justices eyes show an infection but no meds no tests done to find out what it is, staph infections are infectious. ligands spin in clouds and move in open space onto others.  i have seen the creatures with my eyes, others have seen them and wrote letters to judges and doctors asking for tests to be done, others stating they have same symptoms.  we have a huge problem here.  why can&#8217;t this family get an attorney to handle her case for the scars, blurred vision burnt corneas that accutane and isotretinoin caused.  attorneys know from chemical blloks and pdr books, are they afraid of being infected?</p>
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		<title>By: smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7010</link>
		<dc:creator>smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry for the problems that Justice, and anyone else involved, is having. Here is a site on Renova, composed from information sources on it from the United States Food and Drug Administration, Medline, Physician&#039;s Desk Reference, Universities, and several hundred Internet sites, where comments about it are welcome.

http://www.askdocweb.com/renova.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry for the problems that Justice, and anyone else involved, is having. Here is a site on Renova, composed from information sources on it from the United States Food and Drug Administration, Medline, Physician&#8217;s Desk Reference, Universities, and several hundred Internet sites, where comments about it are welcome.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.askdocweb.com/renova.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.askdocweb.com/renova.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7011</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry for the problems that Justice, and anyone else involved, is having. Here is a site on Renova, comprised from information sources on it from the United States Food and Drug Administration, Medline, Physician&#039;s Desk Reference, Universities, and several hundred Internet sites, where comments about it are welcome.

http://www.askdocweb.com/renova.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry for the problems that Justice, and anyone else involved, is having. Here is a site on Renova, comprised from information sources on it from the United States Food and Drug Administration, Medline, Physician&#8217;s Desk Reference, Universities, and several hundred Internet sites, where comments about it are welcome.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.askdocweb.com/renova.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.askdocweb.com/renova.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: tallcotton</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7012</link>
		<dc:creator>tallcotton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Msc,

It sounds like you&#039;re confused about what is taking place with the Renova, nevertheless, she should quit taking it if it&#039;s making her itch. Scratching often leads to sores and scarring. I recommend that she contact her doctor and follow his advice. Good luck and good health.

TC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Msc,</p>
<p>It sounds like you&#8217;re confused about what is taking place with the Renova, nevertheless, she should quit taking it if it&#8217;s making her itch. Scratching often leads to sores and scarring. I recommend that she contact her doctor and follow his advice. Good luck and good health.</p>
<p>TC</p>
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		<title>By: msc</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7009</link>
		<dc:creator>msc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a good friend of justice. i have been to hospitals and doctors offices and witnessed how they mistreat justice and refuse to do tests.  i have the sores the scars and the damage done to justice.  justice never had any problems and had beautiful skin before using a cream called renova 0.05% developed by prof albert kligman, johnson and johson and mcneill ortho pharm and univer of penn and a third party has arose out of the dark wrinkled past whose stock skyrocketed after this product was approved in 1986, that is abstract polymers.  a company who manufactures polymer chips, polymer beads and plastic.  as justice stated they used chemo therapy agents in this product called chelating agents that create metal ligands that have claws and spin and while they are spinning they are pulling the skin in what is called polymerization.  i done and helped in research and have hard documented facts.  they used isotopes, flourescent metal and iron oxides as justice stated.  they used lectins, when they become in contact with water the hydrogenerted lectins become fleshy and active again.  lectins are two micro organisms that live off of each other.  they used titanium, they used photos, and they used silica nano powders.  i have taken photos of justice and others who have come in contact, and all photos show this strange organism that appears to be spinning and moving in and out of its victims skin and clothing.  some one better to start listening.  they used chemicals and gases in this product that have the ability to move in open space onto people, dogs and vehicles, air from one state to another state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a good friend of justice. i have been to hospitals and doctors offices and witnessed how they mistreat justice and refuse to do tests.  i have the sores the scars and the damage done to justice.  justice never had any problems and had beautiful skin before using a cream called renova 0.05% developed by prof albert kligman, johnson and johson and mcneill ortho pharm and univer of penn and a third party has arose out of the dark wrinkled past whose stock skyrocketed after this product was approved in 1986, that is abstract polymers.  a company who manufactures polymer chips, polymer beads and plastic.  as justice stated they used chemo therapy agents in this product called chelating agents that create metal ligands that have claws and spin and while they are spinning they are pulling the skin in what is called polymerization.  i done and helped in research and have hard documented facts.  they used isotopes, flourescent metal and iron oxides as justice stated.  they used lectins, when they become in contact with water the hydrogenerted lectins become fleshy and active again.  lectins are two micro organisms that live off of each other.  they used titanium, they used photos, and they used silica nano powders.  i have taken photos of justice and others who have come in contact, and all photos show this strange organism that appears to be spinning and moving in and out of its victims skin and clothing.  some one better to start listening.  they used chemicals and gases in this product that have the ability to move in open space onto people, dogs and vehicles, air from one state to another state.</p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7005</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Sarach.  No, I don&#039;t think along such lines as anyone having me under surveillance.   I hope that Al is able to tell me what he meant, since he made the original comment. I hope you feel much better soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Sarach.  No, I don&#8217;t think along such lines as anyone having me under surveillance.   I hope that Al is able to tell me what he meant, since he made the original comment. I hope you feel much better soon.</p>
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		<title>By: SarachConnor (abac68)</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7004</link>
		<dc:creator>SarachConnor (abac68)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smileykins - I am not watching you personally if that is what you were thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smileykins &#8211; I am not watching you personally if that is what you were thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: SarachConnor (abac68)</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/08/28/somatoform-disorders-sbd/#comment-7003</link>
		<dc:creator>SarachConnor (abac68)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melbourne is one of the most &quot;multicultural&quot; places in Australia.  We have manner different nationalities living here.  We have a lot of ethnics - greek, italian, masadonia etc.  Myself and others had noticed a great increase in drug induced psychosis about 8 years ago with young men who were either born in Australia from ethnic parents, or were born overseas and emigrated to Australia.  The drug in question for producing the psychosis was marijuana.  I was convinced that their drug psychosis was from the hydroponics/chemicals/steroids which are used to grow dope these days.  Call it an allergic reaction if you like.  Personally I believe this group of men to have an underlying diseases, especially with one of the men I met who then started with Schziophrenia at the age of 21 years.

I remember him telling me one of the first signs of something wrong.  He said he heard noises in his head, like someone was tunning in a radio station and changing the stations.

I do not have Schziophrenia but I had that very same experience about 7 years ago when trying to go to sleep one night.  I didn&#039;t feel too well, I was living in the house by which I was poisoned from the gas heater.  I clearly remember it, and it just sounded like a radio which was tuning in the stations and voices were heard, as was the static sound as the stations were changed.  Not long after this I experienced my first sensation of being pinned down in my sleep by a full body sensation, and then the nightmares began, the nightmares were so real I could not figure out dreams from reality.  I had to resort to sleeping with the light and TV on.  What did help at that time was to &quot;earth&quot; myself by wrapping a piece of speaker wire around my big toe, the speaker wire then went into a bucket which had a soaking wet towel on top of the remaining speaker wire.  This stopped the electical interference that was happening with my brain.

I have a new piece of speaker wire at the moment, because I think I am going to have to resort to it once again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melbourne is one of the most &#8220;multicultural&#8221; places in Australia.  We have manner different nationalities living here.  We have a lot of ethnics &#8211; greek, italian, masadonia etc.  Myself and others had noticed a great increase in drug induced psychosis about 8 years ago with young men who were either born in Australia from ethnic parents, or were born overseas and emigrated to Australia.  The drug in question for producing the psychosis was marijuana.  I was convinced that their drug psychosis was from the hydroponics/chemicals/steroids which are used to grow dope these days.  Call it an allergic reaction if you like.  Personally I believe this group of men to have an underlying diseases, especially with one of the men I met who then started with Schziophrenia at the age of 21 years.</p>
<p>I remember him telling me one of the first signs of something wrong.  He said he heard noises in his head, like someone was tunning in a radio station and changing the stations.</p>
<p>I do not have Schziophrenia but I had that very same experience about 7 years ago when trying to go to sleep one night.  I didn&#8217;t feel too well, I was living in the house by which I was poisoned from the gas heater.  I clearly remember it, and it just sounded like a radio which was tuning in the stations and voices were heard, as was the static sound as the stations were changed.  Not long after this I experienced my first sensation of being pinned down in my sleep by a full body sensation, and then the nightmares began, the nightmares were so real I could not figure out dreams from reality.  I had to resort to sleeping with the light and TV on.  What did help at that time was to &#8220;earth&#8221; myself by wrapping a piece of speaker wire around my big toe, the speaker wire then went into a bucket which had a soaking wet towel on top of the remaining speaker wire.  This stopped the electical interference that was happening with my brain.</p>
<p>I have a new piece of speaker wire at the moment, because I think I am going to have to resort to it once again.</p>
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