Comments on: NPR Morgellons http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/ Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gtbradford http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-19807 gtbradford Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:45:57 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-19807 People like myself that have caught this ( Black Opp's ) Disease , do not have time for discussions on wether it is real or not . It IS real ! , I have cut it out of my back 6 times . . . It replicates , and grows back . I just had an Ultra-sound today at the Hospital . They said that I have sevral chunks of chard glass in my shoulder . Well I have never had any accident with glass , so how'd that get there ? . . It is a replicating ( Armor coverd Pariste) that has ceated , by scientist that are dead now ! Hence Depopulation of the Planet . Get it ? . . Any how this parasite will attatch to a blood vien , and pump out falaria , wich then comes out of our skin , looking for new Host's . And a reminder ' It can only be seen VIA Black lite ! . . . This is why people never see anything . Look under black lite , and you will see the threads . . . . They are coming out , floating in the air , looking for new host's . . .If you have an open wound , and are around a morgellons suffer , you are doomed ! to catch it !!! . . . . . . . Then you will not be De-bunking this disease , but rather , looking for a cure !!!!!! Dumb ASS !. . . . . Oh , sorry bout the spelling . People like myself that have caught this ( Black Opp’s ) Disease , do not have time for discussions on wether it is real or not . It IS real ! , I have cut it out of my back 6 times . . . It replicates , and grows back . I just had an Ultra-sound today at the Hospital . They said that I have sevral chunks of chard glass in my shoulder . Well I have never had any accident with glass , so how’d that get there ? . . It is a replicating ( Armor coverd Pariste) that has ceated , by scientist that are dead now ! Hence Depopulation of the Planet . Get it ? . . Any how this parasite will attatch to a blood vien , and pump out falaria , wich then comes out of our skin , looking for new Host’s . And a reminder ‘ It can only be seen VIA Black lite ! . . . This is why people never see anything . Look under black lite , and you will see the threads . . . . They are coming out , floating in the air , looking for new host’s . . .If you have an open wound , and are around a morgellons suffer , you are doomed ! to catch it !!! . . . . . . . Then you will not be De-bunking this disease , but rather , looking for a cure !!!!!! Dumb ASS !. . . . . Oh , sorry bout the spelling .

]]> By: tallcotton http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11151 tallcotton Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:27:35 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11151 Andy, The "box" you speak of is reality. Outside the box is Morgellons. Your "disease" seems like science fiction because that's exactly what it is, science fiction. There's nothing real about it. The "illusive" Morgellons pathogen can jump through hoops and juggle bowling pins, but that's make believe. Every good researcher has their hands on him, and for a few more thousand, they can corral him, but those are lies, Andy. You need to find the place where you stepped out of the box. That's the only way you'll get back home. Tall Cotton Andy,

The “box” you speak of is reality. Outside the box is Morgellons. Your “disease” seems like science fiction because that’s exactly what it is, science fiction. There’s nothing real about it. The “illusive” Morgellons pathogen can jump through hoops and juggle bowling pins, but that’s make believe. Every good researcher has their hands on him, and for a few more thousand, they can corral him, but those are lies, Andy. You need to find the place where you stepped out of the box. That’s the only way you’ll get back home.

Tall Cotton

]]> By: smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11150 smileykins Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:17:47 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11150 Andy, it takes a cooperative patient who wants to be better, and that is ALL that it takes. You know, one that isn't close-minded. If you know of twelve patients diagnosed with Photorhabdus asymbiotica Kingscliff, that isn't "morgellons disease", as it is stated nowhere in the case definition. Andy, it takes a cooperative patient who wants to be better, and that is ALL that it takes. You know, one that isn’t close-minded. If you know of twelve patients diagnosed with Photorhabdus asymbiotica Kingscliff, that isn’t “morgellons disease”, as it is stated nowhere in the case definition.

]]> By: andycoyle1 http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11039 andycoyle1 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:56:59 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11039 Thank-you for being reasonable in your rebuttal, yet I feel I must re-iterate a point I have made many times, which is the following: The idea of a problem shared is not a problem halved, but is instead a delusion reinforced, is the stock answer and reason given to justify the lack of action, or any examination given, by Doctors' approached by sufferers of these symptoms. The Doctors' are taught, ingrained into them, that symptoms like these are Ekbom's syndrome, and any attempt to even just cursorily examine the patient, will result in themselves, the Doctors', beng guilty of, at best, re-inforcing the patients delusion, or worse being labelled 'folie a deuix' (the folly of two), and liable to professional ridicule, or worse. Therefore, the current situation with 'morgellons symptoms sufferers' has been allowed to accrue and become worse, because of this obstacle. It is not a conspiracy at the Doctors' level, the recent diagnosis of twelve sufferers with Photorhabdus asymbiotica Kingscliff shows this not to be the case. In fact it is a problem with their ability to think outside the box. To accept that the world is round, instead of flat. To accept that the earth orbits the sun instead of it being the centre of the universe with everything else orbiting it. It requires a Doctor with the foresight and courage, like say a modern day galileo, to change this anachronism which should be firmly jettisoned and left in the past where it belongs alongside such similar beliefs as witchcraft etc. Yours nFaithfully Andy Coyle Thank-you for being reasonable in your rebuttal, yet I feel I must re-iterate a point I have made many times, which is the following:

The idea of a problem shared is not a problem halved, but is instead a delusion reinforced, is the stock answer and reason given to justify the lack of action, or any examination given, by Doctors’ approached by sufferers of these symptoms.

The Doctors’ are taught, ingrained into them, that symptoms like these are Ekbom’s syndrome, and any attempt to even just cursorily examine the patient, will result in themselves, the Doctors’, beng guilty of, at best, re-inforcing the patients delusion, or worse being labelled ‘folie a deuix’ (the folly of two), and liable to professional ridicule, or worse.

Therefore, the current situation with ‘morgellons symptoms sufferers’ has been allowed to accrue and become worse, because of this obstacle.

It is not a conspiracy at the Doctors’ level, the recent diagnosis of twelve sufferers with Photorhabdus asymbiotica Kingscliff shows this not to be the case.

In fact it is a problem with their ability to think outside the box. To accept that the world is round, instead of flat. To accept that the earth orbits the sun instead of it being the centre of the universe with everything else orbiting it.

It requires a Doctor with the foresight and courage, like say a modern day galileo, to change this anachronism which should be firmly jettisoned and left in the past where it belongs alongside such similar beliefs as witchcraft etc.

Yours nFaithfully

Andy Coyle

]]> By: tallcotton http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11136 tallcotton Sun, 11 Feb 2007 08:00:59 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11136 Correction: This is NOT something we are wondering about. We know what's taking place. Correction:

This is NOT something we are wondering about. We know what’s taking place.

]]> By: tallcotton http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11038 tallcotton Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:58:03 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11038 Andy, You sound like a very fair person, and I also respect your right to your opinions, and your right to express them. At the same time, I honestly believe that any Morgellons believer that shares his theories with others is helping to reinforce their delusions. This is causing a great deal of harm, both directly and indirectly. We know exactly when, why, and how this mess originated, how it evolved over the years, who caused that to happen, and which doctors and researchers are involved in the exploitation of the Morgellons believers. This something we are "wondering about". This is something we fully understand. Morgellons is DOP. The sufferers have a variety of health problems that led to the development of a psychotic state in the Morgellons believers. The proof is here on this blog, but you have to read it. Start with the main topics, and go from there. Tall Cotton Andy,

You sound like a very fair person, and I also respect your right to your opinions, and your right to express them. At the same time, I honestly believe that any Morgellons believer that shares his theories with others is helping to reinforce their delusions. This is causing a great deal of harm, both directly and indirectly.

We know exactly when, why, and how this mess originated, how it evolved over the years, who caused that to happen, and which doctors and researchers are involved in the exploitation of the Morgellons believers. This something we are “wondering about”. This is something we fully understand.

Morgellons is DOP. The sufferers have a variety of health problems that led to the development of a psychotic state in the Morgellons believers. The proof is here on this blog, but you have to read it. Start with the main topics, and go from there.

Tall Cotton

]]> By: smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11135 smileykins Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:35:05 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11135 Andy, I'm sorry that you feel that way. I had asked if you'd gone back to the tropical disease clinic, and what they'd said, since you'd told us that you had another appointment. Andy, I’m sorry that you feel that way. I had asked if you’d gone back to the tropical disease clinic, and what they’d said, since you’d told us that you had another appointment.

]]> By: andycoyle1 http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11146 andycoyle1 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 06:56:43 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11146 Hi guys, Prevarication, thaT'S THE WORD FOR THOSE THREE POSTS YOU JUST MADE. Informed debate, analysis and rational argument. Foundation stones of any well put case. You have not been able to disengage the fervently held position you occupy,to take a dispassionate, and calm lok at the video, stills, and the evidence you see above this post. In fact the article, paper I have written haS BEEN SUBMITTED, AND PUBLISHED BY THE LANCET. If you provide an e-mail address I will send you a copy. I am sure you can set up a temp email address and send me a request to andy.coyle1@btinternet.com YOU SEE, I DON'T HATE YOU FOR YOUR OPINION, that is your right, I might not agree with that opinion, yet I will vigorously defend your right to hold it, and express it. However wrong it might be. However, what I do hate is prevarication, I admire the argument put as long as it deals with the evidenc head on. If then you are able to argue that position successfully, then who am I to disagree. That is the fundamental basis for a free thinking, and self-expressing society. Hopefully the time is coming for the facts to be revealed, A = that morgellons disease is only an epithet applied by sufferers of an unknown pathogen, or disease. B = That the bacterial agents causing this calamity will be exposed as the real cause and a much bigger danger than a limited range illness might be. C = That the temporary label of morgellons will be superseded with an official scientific label for the emerging strains/genus of bacteria which has led to these illnesses in people. When in distress people will always reach out desperately for manswers and labels. My family are fine thank-you for asking, I shall pass on your regards. Yours Faithfully Andy Coyle Hi guys,

Prevarication, thaT’S THE WORD FOR THOSE THREE POSTS YOU JUST MADE.

Informed debate, analysis and rational argument. Foundation stones of any well put case.

You have not been able to disengage the fervently held position you occupy,to take a dispassionate, and calm lok at the video, stills, and the evidence you see above this post.

In fact the article, paper I have written haS BEEN SUBMITTED, AND PUBLISHED BY THE LANCET. If you provide an e-mail address I will send you a copy. I am sure you can set up a temp email address and send me a request to andy.coyle1@btinternet.com

YOU SEE, I DON’T HATE YOU FOR YOUR OPINION, that is your right, I might not agree with that opinion, yet I will vigorously defend your right to hold it, and express it. However wrong it might be.

However, what I do hate is prevarication, I admire the argument put as long as it deals with the evidenc head on. If then you are able to argue that position successfully, then who am I to disagree.

That is the fundamental basis for a free thinking, and self-expressing society.

Hopefully the time is coming for the facts to be revealed,

A = that morgellons disease is only an epithet applied by sufferers of an unknown pathogen, or disease.

B = That the bacterial agents causing this calamity will be exposed as the real cause and a much bigger danger than a limited range illness might be.

C = That the temporary label of morgellons will be superseded with an official scientific label for the emerging strains/genus of bacteria which has led to these illnesses in people.

When in distress people will always reach out desperately for manswers and labels.

My family are fine thank-you for asking, I shall pass on your regards.

Yours Faithfully

Andy Coyle

]]> By: tallcotton http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11097 tallcotton Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:51:49 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11097 Andy, What on earth does this have to do with Morgellons. If you think that this causes Morgellons, there's one very big problem with yuor theory. There is no Morgellns Disease. It's not caused by Stenotrophomonas maltophilia. It's not caused by High Density Polyethylene. It's not caused by Nano Machines. It's not caused by Agrobacterium. And it's not caused by your bacterium carrying nematode. It doesn't exist. You can took forever, but you're just chasing your tail. Go take care of your wife and kid, and forget this nonsense. Tall Cotton Andy,

What on earth does this have to do with Morgellons. If you think that this causes Morgellons, there’s one very big problem with yuor theory. There is no Morgellns Disease. It’s not caused by Stenotrophomonas maltophilia. It’s not caused by High Density Polyethylene. It’s not caused by Nano Machines. It’s not caused by Agrobacterium. And it’s not caused by your bacterium carrying nematode. It doesn’t exist. You can took forever, but you’re just chasing your tail. Go take care of your wife and kid, and forget this nonsense.

Tall Cotton

]]> By: smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11096 smileykins Thu, 08 Feb 2007 06:50:30 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2006/12/27/npr-morgellons/#comment-11096 I'm so sorry, Andy. I know what I just said didn't sit well, but I mean it from the heart, and I really am so full of regret that this terrible illness has been triggered in anybody, and that "morgellons disease" has made it so much worse. It didn't "All Start With A Young Boy Named Drew", though. Maybe not everyone knows that, so just bear with me, and stay tuned. Only you hold the key to your own recovery. I think many of you know that. I’m so sorry, Andy. I know what I just said didn’t sit well, but I mean it from the heart, and I really am so full of regret that this terrible illness has been triggered in anybody, and that “morgellons disease” has made it so much worse. It didn’t “All Start With A Young Boy Named Drew”, though. Maybe not everyone knows that, so just bear with me, and stay tuned. Only you hold the key to your own recovery. I think many of you know that.

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