Comments on: OCD and Morgellons http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/ Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:10:26 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: sarahbionedunn http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/comment-page-1/#comment-11864 sarahbionedunn Sat, 12 May 2007 13:53:36 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/#comment-11864 It seems Dr. Rutz is the only person studying "Morgellons" who is taking a scientific method in his investigation. Unlike the NMO or MRF, who say "Morgellons is real" and do science backward to prove the conclusion, Rutz seems to be starting with a hypothesis and working forward. I appreciate his emphasis that people's suffering is real, and that he didn't make any claims about the results. I have regained some hope for the science profession. It seems Dr. Rutz is the only person studying “Morgellons” who is taking a scientific method in his investigation. Unlike the NMO or MRF, who say “Morgellons is real” and do science backward to prove the conclusion, Rutz seems to be starting with a hypothesis and working forward.

I appreciate his emphasis that people’s suffering is real, and that he didn’t make any claims about the results. I have regained some hope for the science profession.

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By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/comment-page-1/#comment-11865 Smileykins Sat, 12 May 2007 03:42:12 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/#comment-11865 This is an unbelievably sad situation. Even morgies, themselves, know that some of them are worse than others, and they excuse it away as being a result of "morgellons disease" being more virulent in some, since it's so multifaceted. They've sure had a lot of assistance in drawing their conclusions, too. I'd mentioned before, that, elsewhere, a person posting as "Ursula" stated this as fact: <blockquote>The fact that many of Dr Amin's patients were actually previously misdiagnosed and admitted to psychiatric hospitals, (from where he transferred them to the care of his team), only goes to show the necessity of adequate, professional and individual assessment.</blockquote> http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/07/new_story_on_morgellons_diseas.php Of course, Ursula is on the flip-side of what I personally feel about "morgellons disease", and when I'd asked for her source, regarding what she'd said Dr. Amin had done, she only replied back with: <blockquote>Dr Omar Amin mentions the fact that many of his patients were (inappropriately) diagnosed with delusional parasitosis, and were consequently admitted to psychiatric care. As we all know, Orap (pimozide) is an excellent enough drug, but its efficacy is restricted to treating psychosis, (although it does additionally have anthelmintic properties). If one reads Dr Amin's publications, (a plethora of which are freely available on his website), it can be seen that many infected or infested patients were indeed transferred from psychiatric care to the rather more appropriate province of parasitology.</blockquote> "Anthelmintic properties"? Okay. Anyway, over the years, I've read all of Dr. Amin's on line literature, the same as I've read all that I can, concerning this entire topic. I've apparently overlooked what Ursula stated about his transferring psychiatric patients out of hospitals to the care of his team, or, perhaps, I failed reading between the lines. Am I curious? Yeah, you bet I am. It pisses me off when those who are vulnerable are exploited, and this "morgellons disease" thing is a grave situation for some patients and their families. For others, I'm sure it isn't that big a deal, with it being as multifaceted as it is. This is an interesting read. (Lengthy, but interesting.) http://onlineethics.org/reseth/nbac/mpaper5.html "Morgellons" patients haven't any understanding of what their doctors have told them. They fall for the "doctors" screwing around with their delicate states of ill health. Oh, I'd better hush. I get all worked up over all of this. This is an unbelievably sad situation. Even morgies, themselves, know that some of them are worse than others, and they excuse it away as being a result of “morgellons disease” being more virulent in some, since it’s so multifaceted. They’ve sure had a lot of assistance in drawing their conclusions, too.

I’d mentioned before, that, elsewhere, a person posting as “Ursula” stated this as fact:

The fact that many of Dr Amin’s patients were actually previously misdiagnosed and admitted to psychiatric hospitals, (from where he transferred them to the care of his team), only goes to show the necessity of adequate, professional and individual assessment.

http://scienceblogs.com/aetiology/2006/07/new_story_on_morgellons_diseas.php

Of course, Ursula is on the flip-side of what I personally feel about “morgellons disease”, and when I’d asked for her source, regarding what she’d said Dr. Amin had done, she only replied back with:

Dr Omar Amin mentions the fact that many of his patients were (inappropriately) diagnosed with delusional parasitosis, and were consequently admitted to psychiatric care.

As we all know, Orap (pimozide) is an excellent enough drug, but its efficacy is restricted to treating psychosis, (although it does additionally have anthelmintic properties).

If one reads Dr Amin’s publications, (a plethora of which are freely available on his website), it can be seen that many infected or infested patients were indeed transferred from psychiatric care to the rather more appropriate province of parasitology.

“Anthelmintic properties”? Okay. Anyway, over the years, I’ve read all of Dr. Amin’s on line literature, the same as I’ve read all that I can, concerning this entire topic. I’ve apparently overlooked what Ursula stated about his transferring psychiatric patients out of hospitals to the care of his team, or, perhaps, I failed reading between the lines. Am I curious? Yeah, you bet I am.

It pisses me off when those who are vulnerable are exploited, and this “morgellons disease” thing is a grave situation for some patients and their families. For others, I’m sure it isn’t that big a deal, with it being as multifaceted as it is.

This is an interesting read. (Lengthy, but interesting.)

http://onlineethics.org/reseth/nbac/mpaper5.html

“Morgellons” patients haven’t any understanding of what their doctors have told them. They fall for the “doctors” screwing around with their delicate states of ill health.

Oh, I’d better hush. I get all worked up over all of this.

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By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/comment-page-1/#comment-11867 Michael Sat, 12 May 2007 00:05:10 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/#comment-11867 Here's another recent news story: http://www.wyff4.com/news/13274785/detail.html <blockquote>Deputies said the home Veal shared with her elderly mother was littered with human waste. Investigators say it made them sick to go inside. Veal's cousin, Polly Poole, said Veal suffers from an illness called Morgellon’s Disease. [...] Poole said she believes Veal turned to illegal drugs, like crack cocaine, to deal with the pain.</blockquote> Very sad. The CDC will not be able to help cases like that. Here’s another recent news story:

http://www.wyff4.com/news/13274785/detail.html

Deputies said the home Veal shared with her elderly mother was littered with human waste. Investigators say it made them sick to go inside. Veal’s cousin, Polly Poole, said Veal suffers from an illness called Morgellon’s Disease. [...] Poole said she believes Veal turned to illegal drugs, like crack cocaine, to deal with the pain.

Very sad. The CDC will not be able to help cases like that.

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By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/comment-page-1/#comment-11866 Michael Fri, 11 May 2007 23:59:13 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/#comment-11866 I'm very interested in the CDC's involvement here, and I think it will be something interesting to be viewed with a little distance. Sure, people with Morgellons are suffering, but look at the CDC links I added to the right column here -> . Is it a good use of resources? we'll have to see what comes out of it. It seems Morgellons is only <a href="http://contrailscience.blogspot.com/2007/05/how-many-people-believe-in-chemtrails.html" rel="nofollow">twice as popular as Vexilollogy</a>. I’m very interested in the CDC’s involvement here, and I think it will be something interesting to be viewed with a little distance. Sure, people with Morgellons are suffering, but look at the CDC links I added to the right column here -> . Is it a good use of resources? we’ll have to see what comes out of it.

It seems Morgellons is only twice as popular as Vexilollogy.

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By: Michael http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/comment-page-1/#comment-11868 Michael Fri, 11 May 2007 23:47:13 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/#comment-11868 Those links worked for me Smileykins. There's also the reporter's blog, which adds little. http://www.beloblog.com/KGW_Blogs/reporters/2007/05/nightmare_under_the_microscope.html Rutz's interview was quite telling. For many of the individual people who have Morgellons, they will never accept the findings of the CDC. But for some it will hopefully allow them to be able to accept that there is no novel infectious disease making fibers come out of their skin, and and they need to treat both their physical and their mental problems. Those links worked for me Smileykins. There’s also the reporter’s blog, which adds little.

http://www.beloblog.com/KGW_Blogs/reporters/2007/05/nightmare_under_the_microscope.html

Rutz’s interview was quite telling. For many of the individual people who have Morgellons, they will never accept the findings of the CDC. But for some it will hopefully allow them to be able to accept that there is no novel infectious disease making fibers come out of their skin, and and they need to treat both their physical and their mental problems.

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By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/comment-page-1/#comment-11870 Smileykins Fri, 11 May 2007 20:10:12 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/#comment-11870 It appears that you have to register, now, to get to the CDC interview. Maybe this will directly take you to it: http://www.kgw.com/health/stories/kgw_051007_special_morgellons_cdc.58088115.html It appears that you have to register, now, to get to the CDC interview. Maybe this will directly take you to it:

http://www.kgw.com/health/stories/kgw_051007_special_morgellons_cdc.58088115.html

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By: Smileykins http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/comment-page-1/#comment-11869 Smileykins Fri, 11 May 2007 19:57:12 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/#comment-11869 New article on "morgellons disease", with a link to the latest from the CDC: http://www.kgw.com/health/stories/kgw_051007_special_news_morgellens.58019270.html New article on “morgellons disease”, with a link to the latest from the CDC:

http://www.kgw.com/health/stories/kgw_051007_special_news_morgellens.58019270.html

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By: sarahbionedunn http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/comment-page-1/#comment-11871 sarahbionedunn Fri, 11 May 2007 13:31:37 +0000 http://208.109.216.142/2007/05/09/ocd-and-morgellons/#comment-11871 It's a fair article, considering they even add the Morgellons.org webpage link at the bottom of the article. People can read both pages and make their own decision. Too bad they didn't link it to the NMO, as it would cut people's work out for them. Much better than the psychology today article, which may have been one of the shoddiest pieces of print I have ever read. It’s a fair article, considering they even add the Morgellons.org webpage link at the bottom of the article. People can read both pages and make their own decision. Too bad they didn’t link it to the NMO, as it would cut people’s work out for them.

Much better than the psychology today article, which may have been one of the shoddiest pieces of print I have ever read.

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