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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-21361</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how it's in my head that I have "Morgellons" when I never heard of it until I started getting bleeding sores that started shooting fibers and my right eye is practically non functional, I have another (now 3) "brain cysts". And my stomach of steel (haven't puked in over 10 years) is kicking out vomit every other night now. 
I've lost 35 lbs, everything hurts and got locked in a mental ward for going to the ER for help. Thank you butt-head hubby. Come home; after lying my way out, "wow, so glad I don't itch or hurt anymore" Didn't even find a mental issue with me, no depression, anxiety, NOTHING, still kept me for 8 days. 
Got home, and skin and health declines further and further looking for answers, come across Morgellon's. OMG- every single symptom. 
Thanks for bringing me to FL dear (BTW- Hubby is Air Force, we live on a base). 

&lt;strong&gt;So, I guess it's just all in my head. Like my brain cysts.
Everyone who says this isn't real should get struck down with this. I know that's cruel, but I spent 8 days in the mental ward from 12 Monkeys, it was really bad. They accused me of making the sores myself and therefor being a danger to myself. ERGH. Now it's worse and hubby says, "Oh, that's probably this..." or "It must be the flu..." discount and disbelief. Just like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how it&#8217;s in my head that I have &#8220;Morgellons&#8221; when I never heard of it until I started getting bleeding sores that started shooting fibers and my right eye is practically non functional, I have another (now 3) &#8220;brain cysts&#8221;. And my stomach of steel (haven&#8217;t puked in over 10 years) is kicking out vomit every other night now.<br />
I&#8217;ve lost 35 lbs, everything hurts and got locked in a mental ward for going to the ER for help. Thank you butt-head hubby. Come home; after lying my way out, &#8220;wow, so glad I don&#8217;t itch or hurt anymore&#8221; Didn&#8217;t even find a mental issue with me, no depression, anxiety, NOTHING, still kept me for 8 days.<br />
Got home, and skin and health declines further and further looking for answers, come across Morgellon&#8217;s. OMG- every single symptom.<br />
Thanks for bringing me to FL dear (BTW- Hubby is Air Force, we live on a base). </p>
<p><strong>So, I guess it&#8217;s just all in my head. Like my brain cysts.<br />
Everyone who says this isn&#8217;t real should get struck down with this. I know that&#8217;s cruel, but I spent 8 days in the mental ward from 12 Monkeys, it was really bad. They accused me of making the sores myself and therefor being a danger to myself. ERGH. Now it&#8217;s worse and hubby says, &#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s probably this&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;It must be the flu&#8230;&#8221; discount and disbelief. Just like them.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: sarahbionedunn</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-20807</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahbionedunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once, again, a reply only of ad-hominem attack, and nothing to do with the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once, again, a reply only of ad-hominem attack, and nothing to do with the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Starlink</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-20793</link>
		<dc:creator>Starlink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SarahBoneDunn

The better solution is to point to the accuracies. You guys are full of beans.</description>
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<p>The better solution is to point to the accuracies. You guys are full of beans.</p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-20782</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather, I hope you will just answer Sarah's one simple question. I know I ask too many things (things that never get answered), but, please, what DID upset you?

Do you already know that people who've heard about "morgellons disease" and want to discuss things with patients can't usually post on their forums? That's not the way to do people after sounding the alarm that the public is at risk of catching a new disease. They have a lot of unusual methods, but their basic message of "go away if you don't have this" is not the way anybody stricken with a disease, so serious that they want everyone to know we're all at risk, acts when they want it noticed!  Patients take over just about any news article's comments' section, too, talking unnecessarily rudely to others, disregarding their questions, and any views outside their own. 

Notice that the owner of this blog welcomes everyone here to talk. We mind our own business discussing "morgellons disease" in this one little space. Patients want to educate us? Then, they just need to talk with a simple little exchange of answering easy little questions. 

Heather, some patients, really, think the stuff they're saying on the web is tucked away from public view. I glean lots of information patients seem to forget saying as soon as they've posted it. People are seriously, seriously, SERIOUSLY ILL!!!  No one is allowed to discuss it, though. They mention it as though it's a little incidental thing and that their "morgellons disease" is the cause of it all. 

Everyone's underlying illness is to blame. Doctors aren't stupid, and neither is anyone who's looked into this mess and seen it for what it is. People who think they have "morgellons disease" and/or "chronic lyme" believe, only, their cult doctors who tell them what they want to hear, do what they want, and take their money. Your nazi doctors' experimentations are assisting in helping destroy your lives and spreading antibiotic resistance to the rest of us. Those who DO have delusional disorders, and don't blame me, I never stated it, the Morgellons Research Foundation did, well, hell, read the  headlines about what untreated delusions can lead to. No, who has to, anymore, it's all online now! Pictures and videos, even. Look at this example:

The Face of Morgellons

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chamberlin2007/727459784/ 

Heather, since you've brought up cancer, some "morgellons patients" state that they are cancer patients. If so, that would explain a lot towards why those people are going through their experience. It's pitiful, unless, they're doing like so many I've read accounts of and "diagnosing themselves". Yes, some morgies admit to doing that with such serious things as cancer and multiple sclerosis. 

Lies, lies, lies tripping themselves right up as soon as they say things. All "morgellons disease" patients should do like EnviroGirl said in another comment on Morgellons Watch and get up there in front of Congress. 

Please do it. Now, I think I've said more than enough tonight. AND, it isn't because I'm unkind and unsympathetic, it's just the opposite. And, anyway, I survived DOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather, I hope you will just answer Sarah&#8217;s one simple question. I know I ask too many things (things that never get answered), but, please, what DID upset you?</p>
<p>Do you already know that people who&#8217;ve heard about &#8220;morgellons disease&#8221; and want to discuss things with patients can&#8217;t usually post on their forums? That&#8217;s not the way to do people after sounding the alarm that the public is at risk of catching a new disease. They have a lot of unusual methods, but their basic message of &#8220;go away if you don&#8217;t have this&#8221; is not the way anybody stricken with a disease, so serious that they want everyone to know we&#8217;re all at risk, acts when they want it noticed!  Patients take over just about any news article&#8217;s comments&#8217; section, too, talking unnecessarily rudely to others, disregarding their questions, and any views outside their own. </p>
<p>Notice that the owner of this blog welcomes everyone here to talk. We mind our own business discussing &#8220;morgellons disease&#8221; in this one little space. Patients want to educate us? Then, they just need to talk with a simple little exchange of answering easy little questions. </p>
<p>Heather, some patients, really, think the stuff they&#8217;re saying on the web is tucked away from public view. I glean lots of information patients seem to forget saying as soon as they&#8217;ve posted it. People are seriously, seriously, SERIOUSLY ILL!!!  No one is allowed to discuss it, though. They mention it as though it&#8217;s a little incidental thing and that their &#8220;morgellons disease&#8221; is the cause of it all. </p>
<p>Everyone&#8217;s underlying illness is to blame. Doctors aren&#8217;t stupid, and neither is anyone who&#8217;s looked into this mess and seen it for what it is. People who think they have &#8220;morgellons disease&#8221; and/or &#8220;chronic lyme&#8221; believe, only, their cult doctors who tell them what they want to hear, do what they want, and take their money. Your nazi doctors&#8217; experimentations are assisting in helping destroy your lives and spreading antibiotic resistance to the rest of us. Those who DO have delusional disorders, and don&#8217;t blame me, I never stated it, the Morgellons Research Foundation did, well, hell, read the  headlines about what untreated delusions can lead to. No, who has to, anymore, it&#8217;s all online now! Pictures and videos, even. Look at this example:</p>
<p>The Face of Morgellons</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/chamberlin2007/727459784/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/chamberlin2007/727459784/</a> </p>
<p>Heather, since you&#8217;ve brought up cancer, some &#8220;morgellons patients&#8221; state that they are cancer patients. If so, that would explain a lot towards why those people are going through their experience. It&#8217;s pitiful, unless, they&#8217;re doing like so many I&#8217;ve read accounts of and &#8220;diagnosing themselves&#8221;. Yes, some morgies admit to doing that with such serious things as cancer and multiple sclerosis. </p>
<p>Lies, lies, lies tripping themselves right up as soon as they say things. All &#8220;morgellons disease&#8221; patients should do like EnviroGirl said in another comment on Morgellons Watch and get up there in front of Congress. </p>
<p>Please do it. Now, I think I&#8217;ve said more than enough tonight. AND, it isn&#8217;t because I&#8217;m unkind and unsympathetic, it&#8217;s just the opposite. And, anyway, I survived DOP.</p>
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		<title>By: sarahbionedunn</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-20772</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahbionedunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather: Instead of criticizing how things are said, could you please point to issues in the blog that are inaccurate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather: Instead of criticizing how things are said, could you please point to issues in the blog that are inaccurate?</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-20756</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is such an unkind, unsympathetic web site. What's next? A site for cancer patients who "brought it on themselves?" Your crusade to slander those who are experiencing something you know NOTHING about is so misplaced that it begs the question: what the hell is wrong with YOU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such an unkind, unsympathetic web site. What&#8217;s next? A site for cancer patients who &#8220;brought it on themselves?&#8221; Your crusade to slander those who are experiencing something you know NOTHING about is so misplaced that it begs the question: what the hell is wrong with YOU?</p>
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		<title>By: Smileykins</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-19465</link>
		<dc:creator>Smileykins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 04:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Larry. Welcome back. I am sorry, really, but mites aren't anything new, or disputable. I'll take your word that you've had mites for over eight years, but it seems that mites shouldn't be that impossible to eradicate. 

Aside from that, could you please take a moment to look at a couple of things that you've just said?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Delusion would be if someone had the feeling of being bitten and there was NO evidence to back it up…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nuh-uh, Larry, that is completely wrong. Lots and lots of people may experience the sensation of being bitten without ever having even the slightest inclination towards thinking that anything has actually bitten them, and without ever feeling any sort of a need to look for some sort of physical evidence to back it up. Such people are NOT suffering from delusions, they just happen to know that a whole lot of things can cause biting, crawling, or stinging sensations, and, therefore, they don't go making a big deal out of it, turning it into something it isn't. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;If I can rake my hands over my pant leg and it feels like sandpaper…then scrape my pant leg with a knife and collect my evidence in a receptacle, then put my evidence under a microscope and every sample is mites..”THAT IS NOT DELUSIONAL.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Call me an idiot, but why can't you get rid of the mites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Larry. Welcome back. I am sorry, really, but mites aren&#8217;t anything new, or disputable. I&#8217;ll take your word that you&#8217;ve had mites for over eight years, but it seems that mites shouldn&#8217;t be that impossible to eradicate. </p>
<p>Aside from that, could you please take a moment to look at a couple of things that you&#8217;ve just said?</p>
<blockquote><p>Delusion would be if someone had the feeling of being bitten and there was NO evidence to back it up…</p></blockquote>
<p>Nuh-uh, Larry, that is completely wrong. Lots and lots of people may experience the sensation of being bitten without ever having even the slightest inclination towards thinking that anything has actually bitten them, and without ever feeling any sort of a need to look for some sort of physical evidence to back it up. Such people are NOT suffering from delusions, they just happen to know that a whole lot of things can cause biting, crawling, or stinging sensations, and, therefore, they don&#8217;t go making a big deal out of it, turning it into something it isn&#8217;t. </p>
<blockquote><p>If I can rake my hands over my pant leg and it feels like sandpaper…then scrape my pant leg with a knife and collect my evidence in a receptacle, then put my evidence under a microscope and every sample is mites..”THAT IS NOT DELUSIONAL.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Call me an idiot, but why can&#8217;t you get rid of the mites?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-19461</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't think I'll comment on your foolishness....There are many ignorant people in this world and I think that you have proven to be at the top of the list...Have your fun and games....your day will come...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll comment on your foolishness&#8230;.There are many ignorant people in this world and I think that you have proven to be at the top of the list&#8230;Have your fun and games&#8230;.your day will come&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-19443</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, nobody can comment on YOUR health problems without direct experience.  But I can comment that it is seems different from other people who claim to have "Morgellons".  They don't have their skin covered with mites. 

If you have mites, then show them to your doctor, to make sure they are mites.  An entomologist can identify them.  It is possible though that you are mistaking something like skin flakes for mites.  Itching and formication can have many causes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, nobody can comment on YOUR health problems without direct experience.  But I can comment that it is seems different from other people who claim to have &#8220;Morgellons&#8221;.  They don&#8217;t have their skin covered with mites. </p>
<p>If you have mites, then show them to your doctor, to make sure they are mites.  An entomologist can identify them.  It is possible though that you are mistaking something like skin flakes for mites.  Itching and formication can have many causes.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://morgellonswatch.com/2007/11/03/cdc-kaiser-update/#comment-19432</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one can convincingly comment on this disease without direct experience...whether scientific or personal...Those who would like to play the "intelligent game."...and pretend to know what they're talking about is full of bologna...Delusion would be if someone had the feeling of being bitten and there was NO evidence to back it up...If I can rake my hands over my pant leg and it feels like sandpaper...then scrape my pant leg with a knife and collect my evidence in a receptacle, then put my evidence under a microscope and every sample is mites.."THAT IS NOT DELUSIONAL."...So, for the idiots out there who insist they would like to use their intellect to determine that we are or aren't delusional...just a little crazy at times...I say to you that...trust me..."Your time will come."....when you will feel the direct experience of Morgellons...The more people out there like you, so called "smart thinkers".... who do not believe, nor act on this real problem, will rush the spread of this, soon to be epidemic,,,,,You can sit on your buns and analyze all you would like and simply "WAIT"....for the inevitable to happen....It will be a crushing moment in your life....and one that you will most certainly.."DESERVE."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one can convincingly comment on this disease without direct experience&#8230;whether scientific or personal&#8230;Those who would like to play the &#8220;intelligent game.&#8221;&#8230;and pretend to know what they&#8217;re talking about is full of bologna&#8230;Delusion would be if someone had the feeling of being bitten and there was NO evidence to back it up&#8230;If I can rake my hands over my pant leg and it feels like sandpaper&#8230;then scrape my pant leg with a knife and collect my evidence in a receptacle, then put my evidence under a microscope and every sample is mites..&#8221;THAT IS NOT DELUSIONAL.&#8221;&#8230;So, for the idiots out there who insist they would like to use their intellect to determine that we are or aren&#8217;t delusional&#8230;just a little crazy at times&#8230;I say to you that&#8230;trust me&#8230;&#8221;Your time will come.&#8221;&#8230;.when you will feel the direct experience of Morgellons&#8230;The more people out there like you, so called &#8220;smart thinkers&#8221;&#8230;. who do not believe, nor act on this real problem, will rush the spread of this, soon to be epidemic,,,,,You can sit on your buns and analyze all you would like and simply &#8220;WAIT&#8221;&#8230;.for the inevitable to happen&#8230;.It will be a crushing moment in your life&#8230;.and one that you will most certainly..&#8221;DESERVE.&#8221;</p>
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