Coming Attractions

Smileykins says:

All I have ever wanted (which is pretty delusional thinking on my part, frankly), is for all the suffering to stop. I can’t envision it, considering the real source of the problem for the majority of these folks, and their resistance. I know what they’re going through is horrendous. If it were awful enough, it just seems like they’d give up and try what they were told to, to begin with. I know the rigidity in their beliefs is impermeable, but knowing what they at risk of losing, and what so many “have” already lost, I just can’t fathom holding on that tightly to something hideous, and letting it rule everything. I’ve often said that I don’t think this is anything new, but it’s hard seeing it in anybody. We’ve not been privy to anything like this before, and I doubt we would be, if not for “Morgellons disease”. Well, there have been other message boards, and there still are, even off-shoots of this. It’s not a real disease, but I know that people are going through unbelievable circumstances, and that they think, for certain, it is. Many sound as though they never intend to ever see another doctor for anything. Many don’t believe anything their doctors say, who do still go to them. It all makes me very sad, because I don’t see any solution in sight for these people.

tallcotton says:

MAF,
Your first statement disproves your first statement. Most Morgellons believers don’t appear to be able to tell truth from fiction. I think you would be surprized how many people read this blog, and who they are. Why do you come here begging for information you’ve already been given numerous times? Why do you have so much trouble accepting the truth? Do you think you have Morgellons?

London says:

An upcoming 2-day Morgellons Festival? Hmmm….I’d like to go to see these people and to see if they “really” are infected or not. Wonder if Greema and Cliff will be there? or Ant, Patti or Kerry? I bet you 100.00 not a one of them will be. Just a hunch…..

Michael,

I’m sorry to just now being seeing your post/comment addressed to me via the last page of blog. You said something to the effect of fiber optics and me proving it., for one thing, the articles/ hyperlinks I post are self explanatory and I wont waste my precious time (what lil I have left due to the silcone valley dolls and the biochemisty bubbleheads stabbing me with their fibers) explaining/paraphrasing them for anyone.

Maybe I can’t explain everyone of them, so? But I do know this….I can tell if it effects me or not. I do “get them”. You seem to be covering something Michael. You dismiss everything I post just about.

Hey, did you see yesterday re: the stocks, that LUCENT had the highest activity? Hey Do you have stock with them? Is that why you get so PO’d when I post the truth?

Oh, no? Then why? I could post you a plethora of reasons and links why I think there is fiber optics in us. Mainly because of the lights, lasers and the cellular systems , the bandwidths > PHOTONICS, Michael.

Here, I will give you a minute amount of the materials I have on such stuff.

Each time we flip a switch on we are gaining more electrons in us……cell phones, computers, etc. Sorry Michael, I’m not trying to be rude, but just answering your request. Plus, if you really cared, you would not mind anyway. Now, if you’re hiding something from us, then maybe that would upset you. But, I think the best about you., so I don’t think you would mind these links…..

Michael, remember when I brought up Mems to you? Well, Look Here:

Micromachines or Micro Electro Mechanical (MEMs) is an emerging technology that encompasses many different technologies. Micromachine technology refers to the micro miniaturization of machines (at the micrometer level). Micromachines can be found that incorporate silicon based electronic circuitry, micropumps, micropipes optical micro mirrors and cantilevers. Micromachines are closely related to electronic sensor technology. The process for the manufacture of micromachines is closely related to the integrated circuit manufacturing process. However, there are many micromachine processes that are strictly based on polymers or metals

MEMS / Biochip News November 8, 2004 Edition

http://books.google.com/books?id=MglgfUoBMpMC&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&ots=4zCr67haQg&dq=photons+and+fibre+optics&sig=zPNH-Bt617SnzEPfJpO_cjGc6k0

Self-replicattion from Random Parts:
http://www.squid-labs.com/projects/folding/naturepub.pdf

Now, this one here has quite a few good ones on the page http://prola.aps.org/toc/PRA/v64/i1#sect7
http://amasci.com/tesla/biores.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/06/040614080542.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/08/050803064552.htm

http://www.usc.edu/dept/engineering/eleceng/Adv_Network_Tech/Html/aleviFTTP/aleviFTTP.pdf#search=%22T3%20bandwidth%20and%20fibers%20in%20skin%22

And my favorite:
http://www.squid-labs.com/projects/rdc.html

Michael says:

London, the links you post are ususally very interesting. But they don’t seem to have any connection to what people describe as “Morgellons”. I’m just asking that you take some time to explain the connection, just a few sentences per link would be fine.

That last link on dessicated living things was fascinating, yet it’s something entirely new to the topic. Nobody has suggested that the “thing” can survive dessication (having 0% water), yet you now claim that something in your skin comes to life when water is added. This does not imply full dessication, and so the link does not add to the discussion.

A better approach would be provide a more detailed description of what YOUR critters look like, with measurements, and preferably some photos. Maybe you’ve got some infestation of lice or something, or maybe you are just mistaking dried scabs for living things. Either way, you would be better off if you took careful observations, rather than looking for these rather tenuous googled connections.

Anonymous says:

London states to Michael: Hey, did you see yesterday re: the stocks, that LUCENT had the highest activity? Hey Do you have stock with them? Is that why you get so PO’d when I post the truth?

Since I am kinda new here this is what Michael has posted: retired, worked with computers 41 years(???).

So london if you haven’t figured it out yet let me go ahead and tell ya ——– Michael is BILL GATES 🙂

and I’m the Toothfairy.

Hey it’s FRIDAY YA’LL – Let have a relaxing week-end and start again Monday.

MHKS says:

I know this isn’t completely on topic for this post, however, it is the latest post by Michael so perhaps more people will see this and answer.

I am interested to read comments from anyone who believes they have Morgellons disease (or from people who live with or know a morgellons patient) who have:

A) Been diagnosed with DOP or any other psychiatric disorder such as Munchausens, Munchausens-by-proxy, OCD, ADD, ADHD, etc.
B) If so, what was the prescribed treatment (meds? talk therapy? Both?)
C) Did you follow the prescribed treatment, if so, how long?
D) If you chose not to follow the prescribed treatment or attend any referrals, what was your reason for not doing it?

I am also interested in answers to the same questions, but with regard to skin disorders.

I realize it sounds as though I am challenging you, but truly, I’m not. I have simply never heard evidence from *anyone* who claims to have Morgellons and who also insists its not a mental disorder (well, I guess the two go hand-in-hand) who has actually specifically said they were diagnosed with DOP, etc, *and* followed the prescribed course of treatment.

Basically, you say it’s not DOP but you never say how you *know* it’s not DOP. Omitting DOP as a possibility is meaningless unless you have actually been diagnosed, got treatment, and it didn’t work. Ditto for any other mental disorders.

Thanks–I appreciate your time.

MHKS says:

London,

You say: “This thing is what I have in me: Larvae of Polypedilum vanderplanki and it is from Africa……”

How do you know that’s what you have in you? I’ve never heard of it before.

Smileykins says:

As an active participant on lymebusters for roughly six months, which entailed a lot of learning, and failed attempts to break through to most people, the answers to pertinent questions were commonly evaded. As people appeared there, it was taken for granted (somehow, which baffled the living daylights out of me), that advice could be issued out to them on home remedy treatments (not too wise ones, to begin with, for anyone, regardless), without anybody asking anyone anything about what they were experiencing. They all just seemed-to-know, and when questioned, which I certainly don’t think was too much to ask, got angered, and/or disappeared for a while from posting. Now, if what I’m saying is “gossip”, go on into lymebusters and try that, now. You’re free to look around, but questions, shall we say, are kind of “prohibited”. This is the internet, and there’s not really any privacy, contrary to some beliefs. If people are expected to understand this, then why all the anger at simple, well thought out, pertinent questions?

Morgies Friend says:

MHKS, you asked to hear from someone who believes they have Morgellons or someone who knows a believer. I am the friend of a believer. I too would like to hear from those who are related or know believers. I think some of us need advise and support. My believer has had emotional issues most of his life. He apparently had some kind of insect infestation in his home and started to experience itching. Unfortunately he logged on to MRF and is now a full fledged member.
He is willing to give up his pets, his home, his posessions because of this belief. He has spent money he does not have on cures.
I’m appalled by the way LB and MRF have brain washed the mentally challenged.
But I’m getting off the track.
My concern is how to relate and react to those who believe they have Morgellons. Do you support them in their beliefs? Do you try to disuade them (you know that is most difficult).
My believer (who I will call MB, to protect the innocent)sees a psychiatrist and a therapist. MB has been in a mental hospital due to this issue. Has been suicidal. It has been a 2 year roller coaster ride of emotions to all involved.
Who else is dealing with these issues? How many believers have a history of mental illness. Please lets hear from you.

Smileykins says:

# MHKS Says:
August 18th, 2006 at 12:30 pm

I know this isn’t completely on topic for this post, however, it is the latest post by Michael so perhaps more people will see this and answer.

I am interested to read comments from anyone who believes they have Morgellons disease (or from people who live with or know a morgellons patient) who have:

A) Been diagnosed with DOP or any other psychiatric disorder such as Munchausens, Munchausens-by-proxy, OCD, ADD, ADHD, etc.
B) If so, what was the prescribed treatment (meds? talk therapy? Both?)
C) Did you follow the prescribed treatment, if so, how long?
D) If you chose not to follow the prescribed treatment or attend any referrals, what was your reason for not doing it?

I am also interested in answers to the same questions, but with regard to skin disorders.

I realize it sounds as though I am challenging you, but truly, I’m not. I have simply never heard evidence from *anyone* who claims to have Morgellons and who also insists its not a mental disorder (well, I guess the two go hand-in-hand) who has actually specifically said they were diagnosed with DOP, etc, *and* followed the prescribed course of treatment.

Basically, you say it’s not DOP but you never say how you *know* it’s not DOP. Omitting DOP as a possibility is meaningless unless you have actually been diagnosed, got treatment, and it didn’t work. Ditto for any other mental disorders.

jeeezelouise says:

“Morgellons Festival”?

What an odd thing to call the event.

Smileykins says:

Now, it is really hard not to entertain thoughts of what a Morgellons Festival might be like, though, isn’t it? Will there be a tent, with morgellons’ specimens in jars on display? Will there be booths set up where you can get zapped? Tin foil hats, fog horns, hand-held scanners, and a talent show, maybe?

MHKS says:

Smileykins says: “Now, why would I say such a thing? Does that mean I’m implying that I actually do believe in such a thing as “morgellons disease”?”

I’m beginning to think that what “morgellons disease” actually is is the MISTAKEN BELIEF that your body is producing fibers. In that sense, I do think it exists–as Michael says, fibers are everywhere and they do get into sores. They do sometimes come out of unbroken skin. Fibers are stuck in scabs and healing lesions all the time. Couple that with someone who is prone to mental disorders or just has some emotional issues and who has a skin disorder that won’t heal (especially if you’re constantly picking and scratching at it, hello) and maybe fibers are just an obvious thing to focus on. Maybe it’s no coincidence that “so many people” have the “same symptoms.”

So perhaps “morgellons” does exist, just not in the way sufferers want us to believe. It’s actually a mental disorder similar to DOP or a subset of DOP. Course, we could call it anything, I’m just calling it morgellon’s disease for the sake of argument.

But of course these are just theories. Every case is different, I’m sure.

Smileykins says:

“Mental problem”? “They know they aren’t crazy”. That is what they say, is it not? If they had more of an understanding of the human mind and brain functionings, well, frankly, I think if a lot of them had less prejudiced notions on a whole lot of things, and less hang-ups, they’d let their guard down and be receptive to some realizations.

Smileykins says:

http://www.cherokeechas.com/events.htm

Stay tuned for info on the upcoming Morgellons Festival

September 9 & 10, 2006

Tahlequah, Oklahoma

London says:

Hi MHKS,

I’m sorry, I will be back later to answer your questions; it’s just too hard too type right now. ( i’m experiencing extreme shaking and uncontrolled laughter from TC’s comments-pathenogen races, etc.,) later….HAHAHA

Randy says:

Almost three years has gone by since I contracted this. I was working on a electrical project under a busy street and moved a mixture of sand and dirt that had long been undisturbed. I seldom become ill but a short time later(perhaps an hour) I began to feel strange and somewhat nauseus.
About the same time my dog who I sometimes call the digger comes home and sleeps near me. During this particular night I feel what I can only describe as a invasion on my body, a movement on my skin and each time I awoke to try and get a visual on this I could find nothing. The crawling and pinching started soon afterward. I made a few trips to the physicians office but because I could offer no insight to help them I was left without any good recourse. Im not in a position to devote all my time to this so discoveries have been slow coming. I used a cotton ball with alcohol on it and rubbed this on my head (hair is shaved short)and used a 5 power eye piece to view.
I only thought of doing this last winter and found the red, blue,and black fibers and the small black dots and some other things, Im at a loss to explain.
I discovered these things after my trips to the physicians.
I read the expressions and body language of people as well as anyone and dont like what I read sometimes. My former internist sent me to a infectious disease specialist and that specialist wanted me to get a sample. What am I paying these people to do? I do all the work although it is entirely outside of my field.
I believe I need to see another physician since I have more answers now but I am sure that doctors present their ideas to each other and develop a shared view of a problem based solely on the observations or lack of observations. They seem to blindly accept the diagnosis of each other and that is where their delusion comes from. I have been almost 25 years in my career and dont ever believe someone just because they say they are correct.

Robert says:

This article sets forth what I now feel very strongly is going on with Morgellons- it’s a psychiatric condition caused in most cases by advanced Lyme disease. Lyme disease can cause both psychological problems AND itching skin (a friend of mine had both symtoms with Lyme) and so it’s easy to see why Lyme disease is fertile ground for delusions of itching fibers.

This Dr. Smith’s story gets wackier all the time- now he says the fiber actually traveled from his cheek to his eye and burrowed in. Presumably some living entity that according to a poster here can survive 1000 degree heat. Right. He’s really in rough shape if he expects rational people to believe this story of the wandering fiber. Maybe one will hail a cab and show up at my house- hope not.

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20060820/localnews/118795.shtml

I really think this is the answer to this mystery. In those who don’t have Lyme disease, I think the explanation is simply delusions of parasites.

Smileykins says:

Robert, my man, thank you for providing that interesting article. Are you the same Robert that commented here in the recent past, who has progressed in learning what this is all about? I had felt “just exactly” like Dr. Smith says, in the closing comments in that story, for a couple of months, myself, a little more than four years ago…

“Unless it’s happening to you, it’s hard to believe,” he said. “It’s hard even for me to believe, sometimes.”

It happened to me, it was hard-to-believe, and I couldn’t “not believe” that it was all happening, until I forced it to cease, when I made a conscious decision to do something to see what the outcome would be. I was so fortunate it worked. Unfortunately, simply striving for optimal health isn’t that easily attainable for most people that I am familiar with, on line, who think they have this. I know I would want it to stop, no matter what, if I had a more difficult to control situation. Two months was too long for me!!!

jeeezelouise says:

Randy, that’s not what Michael said.

If you do rub a damp cotton ball on your head, then you will find red, white and blue fibers there, simply because they are very common in the environment, and are found on every surface. There’s nothing unusual about this.

Michael did NOT say that the fibers are from the white cotton ball. No worries, I’ve noticed you’ve a tendency to misunderstand things you read, jump to conclusions, and then argue quite vigorously from that faulty position.

Glad to help.

Randy says:

If you dont have the problem then your talking crap!

London says:

Good afternoon TC! Have you thought of anymore events for the Morgellons Festival? I would like to keep brushing up on my skills so I will win top prizes…..let me know….

London

tallcotton says:

Well, London, it’s a two day event, so they will be renting sterilized cots. A band will intro with “Hey there, Morgie Girl”. There will be “I notta DOP” T-shirts, among other selections. One of the events will be a scab throwing contest. Skeptics can win anything on the top row if they dare to “Hug a Morgie”. I’ll have to check and see what else is scheduled for the event.

Smileykins says:

Cool. Thanks, Robert. Yeah, I’m 100% better from how I was during that 2 month illness. I hope you’re well, and having a nice day.

London, TC’s considering the events, and you, no doubt, already know of a few of professor’s past inventions. (Wait until you see his latest fluke-nuker. We may rent a stand next to the snake oil salesman and sell them at the festival.) Well anyway, he’s almost modest when it comes to his culinary skills, especially in the art of candy making. Gurl, you won’t believe it, but he’s come up with Chinese Cotton Candy. Yeah! We’ll try to sell it there too, but it may not go over too big. It’s 100% safe, though, made from pure sugar, mostly. I’m trying to get the neighbor talked into taking us out there in his hot air balloon. If we make it there that way, we’ll offer rides, of course. Brush up on those skills!

texastar says:

I want to go on one of the UFO rides I know Cliff Mickelson will have available and do one of the abduction simulations.

tallcotton says:

Since when is it good for delusional people to find other people that agree with them. That’s how these false ideas become reinforced. I understand, but I don’t agree.

tallcotton says:

I don’t think the itching is funny. Nor do I think the pain is funny. I don’t think it’s funny the way this has hurt relationships either.

The thought of a Morgie Festival can be funny, with a little bit of imagineering. I think its good when Morgies find laughter in their situation. It doesn’t mean that we are glad about the Morgellons problem.

I’ve spent countless hours trying to think of ways to help Morgies. I’ve spent a lot of time sharing info for that purpose. I’ve also tried to bring some humor into their otherwise miserable situation.

I used to research constantly, and I shared that research with other Morgies. Eventually, I came to believe that we were wasting our time, that the illusive pathogen has never existed. I think many morgies believe that very same thing, but have trouble admitting it.

London says:

PS: I dunno if this is something that KC from Oklahoma is organizing….but if it is; I betcha it will be big fun…Is this what that is? Just curious!

Smileykins says:

I think Dblcrk is in charge of organizing the festival, and her son’s band will be performing.

Maybe not this song, but TC thinks it’s possible that they might open with it..

Hey there morgie girl
There´s another someone deep inside
Bring out all the love you hide
And oh what a change there’ll be
The world will see a new morgie girl
Wake up morgie girl
Come on morgie girl

Yes, we’ll be holding onto London’s hands too, as we go merrily along, skipping to da-do-dah-day Ted’s gonna be there doing his hit, for sure, ain’t he London? I want do one of the abduction simulations, too!!

London says:

hahahaha, just now seeing that Smiley!

al says:

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THE 3 DARK ANGELS
MONSANTO
USA
IM A GLOW WORM

TexasRose says:

OK ONE MORE TIME:

The MRF got over TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN DONATION!!

over $ 2 0 , 0 0 0 . 00 in donations!!!

ONLY TWO THOUSAND $ 2,000.00 FROM MRF + $2,000.OO FOR Brandi Koch was SENT TO RESEARCH = $4,000.00.

Do people NOT SEE IT????????
Ok if you don’t – November 15, 2006 their 990 will be filed – so then ya’ll can see the INJUSTICE OF THE MRF!!!!!!!!

The the MRF is a ‘RESEARCH’ FOUNDATION!!!!!!!!!! So WHY NOT send the donation money to Dr. Wymore????????????

Question: YOUR KIDS have morgellons, you as a mother want a cure so WHAT’S THE HOLD UP ON DONATION MONEY????

Mary L. should have stepped up and told anybody that was part of HER foundations – “I don’t give a shit want ya’ll say but checks in the mail to OSU for all donations that have been made!!!” Why didn’t she do this not as a the top dog of her own foundation but AS A MOTHER WANTING A CURE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plus if anybody that was on the board at that time said “Mary, I don’t think that’s a good idea to send it ALL” She should have answered “I don’t give a F*** what you think, my kids need a cure!!!!!!! Don’t like my decision then resign or even better “your fired”” – Question: Why did she not do this for her own kids, if not for all the morgellon people on this planet???? Anybody got an answer?

Mary Leitao is a founder of WHAT?? RESEARCH??? Show us what research this foundation has done in the last year??? No updates on MRF website – so what is MRF all about?

Yes the NMO wants to raise funds for OSU – WHY YOU ASK – BECAUSE THE MRF IS NOT SENDING ANYTHING OSU. You will also note on the NMO website that all donations are MADE AT THE OSU WEBSITE!!! Big difference then the MRF website, make a donations to the MRF, then email FOREVER asking were your donations went!!

Yes the Holmans are working with Dr. Wymore, trying to provide everything that they can – WHY???? Mr. Holman’s WIFE CINDY HAS MORGELLONS!!! Duh Mr. Holman wants a cure and will fight anybody on this planet to get the job done!!!

OK Sara next time you talk with Mary – tell her the MRF is invited to the Festival. Because the Festival has only been on the website about 2 months – SO THAT MEANS – you have talked to Mary since the festival was put on the website. HMMMM Question: you have been blasting mary in your post the last few months hmmmmm.

Wow – Mary L. has gotten: stalked, received abussive phone calls day and night some even 10 minutes long on her answer machine, death threats
Question: Do we have POLICE REPORTS on this? Nobody would stand around and do nothing when getting this – they would call the POLICE TO REPORT IT.

Question: Ken Cowles ever get the Media in Australia?

Sara you are a ball of laughs with this sentence:
“””Can you see how the behaviour of others since the MRF was started is questionable”””
Behaviour of others??? hmmm I can see that “they” are getting donations to OSU, organized a festival to “raise” money for RESEARCH, push for MEDIA, fighting Dan Rutz for answers, etc.
What “behaviour” has the MRF done the last 6 months???????? anybody got an answer??? Step up here and talk MRF???

Smileykins says:

Question: Why did she not do this for her own kids, if not for all the morgellon people on this planet???? Anybody got an answer?

Because Mary Leitao didn’t seek mental health care for herself, instead of obsessing over Drew, and finding “morgellons disease” in that ancient piece of literature, and making all of this seem like a reality to so many people. I’m not implying that people who truly believe that they have what she started, don’t have a lot of conditions, but they’re not “morgellons disease”.

SarachConnor (abac68) says:

Texasrose – The last time I spoke to Mary Leitao would have been about a month and a half ago approximately. I did mention it in one of my posts on this blog site, which would back up you saying that I spoke to her since the festival was announced.

I am only telling you what I have been told okay.

I have not received reply emails from Dr Wymore, nor have I received reply emails from MRF – meaning I sent an email to the Morgellons Information email address asking them for a link to watch the “Medial Mysteries” which was on the ABC. Michael did email me a couple of links, but these will not open.

You must understand I am very much more in the dark than you.

I do not hear from the MRF. I do not hear from Cindy or Charles anymore, since I ignored their last emails, which was them requesting me to please phone them, “we need to talk” was the last one. If they really need to speak to me they can damn well phone me.

I have no idea what is happening with money. But my friend spoke to Mary Leitao when the reports of MRF accountability hit the internet. She told him this was purely a dispute over $100 and a power struggle. I refused to speak to her at this time due to the psychological distress is was causing me. She was really upset to think I was believing the lies on the internet since her and I had been so focused in the past of getting to the bottom of whatever this was.

Look that last conversation with Mary she said to me when I called her “what on earth has been happening on the internet” and she told me that she is still the same person she was when she started the Foundation, she is grounded.

12 months ago when Mary and Dr Wymore were both examining patient samples etc. they were finding that people were infected with all sorts. She kept me up to date with everything. Both Mary and Wymore exhausted every single organism they know and still could not find a single cause or pathogen.

Don’t you think that alone makes her look to be the “bad person” or pushed into a corner which is what appears to have happened.

I will not be phoning Mary. I don’t believe I need to. She is no more aware of the “Morgellons Pathogen” than I am.

Have you never thought to yourself – maybe things would have been different had her husband not died so suddenly? Do you not think that Mary and the children are effected by the death of their dad? Seriously why do you not phone her yourself and ask her, there is no harm in that. If you believe absolutely everything on the internet with regards to Morgellons the paranoia is sure to take over.

I have spoken to both Drew and her daughter Samantha on the phone. Sam has had a real hard time. I spoke to her one time trying to explain why her mum continues to do what she does.

Can you not just think that maybe Mary is also suffering at the hands of the Morgellons Phenomenon? She can not control what others are doing or how they are thinking.

Why is it that Dr Wymore gives a lot of credit to Cliff for his research?

Mary said long ago – “some people think Morgellons is caused by chemtrails, or bioterriorism, or an experiment escaped from a lab ie. southcity. Her and I both agree that Lyme Disease to be a common denominator in the Morgellons Group. Not because Ginger Savely said this, because of our own experience with Morgellons.

Now I have also entertained the idea that Mary could have started this purely for Research and Money, but then I say to myself, she would have to be a damn good actress, and if she has stolen large amounts of money – someone, somewhere would have pinned her for it by now.

The remaining members of the MRF are very quiet. I think they have had to do this because of what has taken place on the internet. Personally I think Cliff becoming friendly with Chas, Cindy and Dr Wymore has really changed a few things. I have no proof of this just my gut feeling, that last phone call with Mary, and what I read on these websites. As I said we did not discuss the NMO, that last phone call I made was purely for me, I was desperate for some support, someone to listen to me and understand my fear.

Maybe as the days progress things may make more sense to me and appear clearer but I am just telling you the truth. I spoke with Ken once back in June I think, he seemed to be focused on Dr Wymore’s research and finding a research/uni facility in the Melbourne that would take up Morgellons Research. I have told you before I have enquired about sending Dr Wymore samples, only to receive silly emails from his coworkers saying we can not accept samples from everyone. What am I to think or do if he does not reply to my emails. I sent a copy of my email to Charles Holman that I sent to Dr Wymore, he told me I was guaranteed to get a reply, but not straight away as Cindy had also emailed and was still waiting a reply.

Mary does not have a Morgellons wristband and isn’t really interested in them, she said people love them and never take them off, but this was trivial stuff for her, and I understand.

When I asked some time back what is taking the CDC so long, she just said – they obviously don’t believe that people are really suffering and that this is a real disease, she sounded extremely depressed and sounded more and more depressed in each phone call prior to the blow out with MRF.

I will tell you that in a private message with “Anthill” on Lymebusters he told me that Mary is cool, she can be trusted, and not to worry about the MSBP, but he also said that “they” had a joke lined up for Mary which she would probably not find very funny. I did mention this to her, and she had no idea what he was talking about and neither did I. So we discussed it no further. We assumed it was to do with this blog site because Anthill had been tracking alot of posts on Lymebusters that were linked to this IP Address. Now after my experience with some people on Lymebusters they are definitely two faced. She has only ever spoken nicely about Anthill in which he was discussed very briefly in one phone call, and she said that after this whole thing is over at least he maybe able to get a job in the IT Computer area since he has learnt so much, rather than going back to being a Carpenter. Now take that information which ever way you like it.

SarachConnor (abac68) says:

TexasRose Says:
September 21st, 2006 at 6:28 am
OH also just a FYI – Karen in Oklahoma is putting this Festival on – the NMO is supporting this with website space and media. Contact Karen she is the one that decided to organize this festival. Maybe people will start organizing one in ever state!!!

Personally I believe a festival to be a waste of food and oxygen. This could be better used by putting pressure on the CDC and Mr Dan Rutz.

Why is it that I now receive emails from Greg (Morgellonsusa.org) saying he is doing great and back on track? These emails are not personally addressed to me, I am obviously on his mailing list along with the others. He has Cat Scratch Fever and Lyme Disease and claims also to have Morgellons. I know nothing about this person other that what we have all read and heard on the internet radio broadcasts.

I received an email from Cliff last week asking me how I was going. I replied very quickly with “Okay considering, do you know what the hell is going on? And don’t give me any of that Alien crap either.” I did not receive a reply, but he still continues his mind games with me over at Morgellons Group. Do you think this is fair to someone in my current health situation?

SarachConnor (abac68) says:

Texasrose – I await your reply to my questions please. I have answered all your questions honestly.

I will say it again. Do you have any evidence to back up your statements about the MRF and donated funds or is this just purely “hear say”??

SarachConnor (abac68) says:

So is this website run by one person only??

Having trouble changing hats?

You all come out of the wood work when you think there is something “juicey” to discuss don’t you?

BUT you don’t want to discuss FACTS it seems.

TexasRose says:

A dispute over $100 bucks? yeah right, get your friend to call her back and ask “How has the MRF spent the $20,000 that has been donated?” Would love to hear Mary’s answer on that one!!

Mary says “power struggle”??? yeah right – it was no power struggle – it was people saying “this is a research foundation, lets send the money to RESEARCH!!!!!!!”. BUT BUCKY AND MARY COULDN’T DO THAT, OH NO!!!

Lies on the internet??? what lies?? the only thing I see is people question the MRF of donation funds. Hello MRF were you spending all the money???

Did you keep any of those “up to date emails from mary” on her and wymores findings of the samples? I would like to see what she wrote.

Nobody has ‘pushed’ mary in a corner – all she needs to do is make another public announcement of a account of all the money that has been donated to the MRF and how it was SPENT!!! End of story and I would go away!!

I really don’t care about Mary’s personal life – I CARE ABOUT what her foundation is doing with the funds ONLY!!!

Why do I not phone her? Email me the phone number will LOVE TO CALL HER!!!!!! I would also record the call so I could post it on the web – that way people will be able to hear the answers I would like to have from the MRF.

Why is it that Dr. Wymore gives a lot of credit to Cliff for his research? hmmmm DUH BECAUSE CLIFF IS RESEARCHING THIS ALSO!!! But the huge question is “why DOESN’T Dr. Wymore give credit to the MRF? oh that’s right – they “really” aren’t into “research” now are they.

This is great:
” Now I have also entertained the idea that Mary could have started this purely for Research and Money, but then I say to myself, she would have to be a damn good actress, and if she has stolen large amounts of money – someone, somewhere would have pinned her for it by now. ” HELLO MY NAME IS TEXASROSE!!! PINNED HER IS MY GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“The remaining members of the MRF are very quiet” HMMMM maybe they are to “chicken” to say anything!!!!!
Sare think about WHY Cliff would go with Chas, Cindy and Dr. Wymore and not the MRF. Because C & C and Wymore are RESEARCHING THIS – I would go with the folks that truely want to figure this out asap too.
Did Ken get that research in Melbourne YET!!
Everybody wants to send samples to Wymore – if he needs some – I am sure everybody will be contacted a date and time to give samples.
Why doesn’t Mary have a “wristband”??? Wow – it says Morgellons.org and the MRF is getting DONATION MONEY OFF THOSE BANDS because they say ” .ORG ” !! Half the money raised from those wristbands go to MRF the other half goes to OSU.
Anthill is an idiot!!
I never base anything on “hear say” – I get proof first!!
Ok about the Festival – Lets just say about 1 – 4 thousand people show up to support the festival. Now how fast do you thing the media will be all over this??? Sure would put more questions at the CDC from the media. sounds like a great idea to me – I say next festival should be held on the front steps of the CDC!!!! Let ALL those people that work there go through a ton of people with morgellons WOOHOO THAT SHOULD WAKE UP THE CDC!!!
I have NO clue why you are getting emails from Greg, morgellonsusa.org, I don’t get any emails RATS I FELL LEFT OUT. Wonder how I could get on the mailing list, hmmm.
BACK UP – Cliff ask by email “how are you doing” sounds like he cares about your well being. and you come back with a sentence ” And don’t give me any of that Alien Crap either”??? I wouldn’t email you back with an attitude like that!!! So much for someone reseaching out to see about your well being.
DON’T GO TO MORGELLONS GROUP if it makes you stressed out!!!
OH everybody is contacting the CDC and getting into heated conversation with Dan Rutz!!!!!! VERY HEATED – huge push from many people with morgellons tagging that CDC to do something.
Ok coffe and flowers are not good for ya – how about reading a good book? or just watching clouds go by? Anything you like to do that gives you a good feeling is positive thinking.
Gee Sara – I have heard a lot about ya!!! Yes we have never talked by phone but heck I worry about your well being along with everybody else that has known ya for a long time.
If this was ment for me:
BUT you don’t want to discuss FACTS it seems.
Sorry for my late reply – but Japan folks will not go to bed today grrrrr. I do work online with people in different times of the world. So sometime I get tied up with them sorry but they do help pay my bills – just a online J.O.B. 🙂
Sara please I am not jumping at you, I just really don’t have much “tack” really when it comes to injustice of the MRF. Many people “trusted” them – but they sure haven’t followed through.
A lot of things are in the works that should be coming out soon that I hope will PUSH CDC, DOCTORS, ETC. to stop and try and FIND ANSWERS before “blowing” off the patient that is sitting there asking for help!!!
Sara – please have a great day oops night time then a great day. It’s getting late for ya down under.

My email is grandmaflight@yahoo.com

Michael says:

Maybe Dan Rutz should have stayed working with CNN. Why did he give away that job for a lower paid job with the CDC. Just another thing I was told by ML.

What does Dan say about this?

http://www.mervinblock.com/healthreax.html

I left CNN under the pressure of reporting stories “for competitive reasons” even when I knew the information was highly speculative, sensational, and little else. It was difficult to cave in to a management style that favors the sizzle more then the steak and fails to recognize both the positive value of responsible health journalism or the great harm flowing from the opposite.

SarachConnor (abac68) says:

Michael you and your buddies seem to favour the sizzle more than the steak don’t you?

This is all a fabricated money spinner.

Michael says:

Well I want answers okay and I want that tomorrow or today better still yesterday.

Well, there’s your problem.

I sorry SarachConnor, but it’s unlikely that you will get the answers you are seeking.

Millions of people have health problems of unknown etiology. They won’t get answers either. This is not because of some vast government cover-up, it’s simply that modern medicine does not have all the answers. Doctors don’t know it all.

Look at Rheumatoid Arthritis – it affects millions, it’s been known as a disease for years, but nobody knows what causes it, and there is no cure.

I understand why you are angry. I feel very sorry for you. But the sad thing is that this anger is only making you sicker. I know you can’t always control your anger, and that’s not your fault.

I can’t help you. But you can help yourself.

SarachConnor (abac68) says:

No fallopian tube removed nothing like that okay. I have only had a tonsillectomy and a benign breast lump removed. I have always been extremely healthy.

Smileykins Says:
September 21st, 2006 at 11:26 am
Sarach, what are your doctors’ prognoses on how much time you have left, and did they say that your terminal condition is “morgellons disease”?

My doctors so far have been rather non committal. I was told last July that I had a 70% chance of full recovery from chronic rickettsiosis in 18 months to 2 years, this was before I told him about my skin symptoms, and he never gave me a physical examination on the first consultation, only listened to my heart and heard my heart murmur and took my blood pressure. The rest was a diagnosis from across the desk by the information I had given him.

I am not sure of my prognosis, but it really isn’t hard to work out when my doctor can’t explain why my body is not absorbing iron and my blood showed some inflammation at the time of the blood tests, which we put down to having a cold. This disease has caused so much damage on the outside of my body, I would hate to imagine what my insides look like.

tallcotton says:

Sarah Connor is fighting, but this pro-morgellons NONSENSE is not helping the situation. It’s nothing but a lot of CRAP. There’s absolutely no reason to believe that Morgellons exists. Sarah is much better off treating her rickettsiosis and any other KNOWN medical conditions, and listening to her doctors. Stress greatly hinders healing. This hysteria, impatience, anxiety, negativity, and worry only serves to deplete the immune system and give any invaders a helpful boost. Get a grip on yourselves.

al says:

OK GUYS TO THE NEXT LEVEL
ill just start throwing biblical texts at yas
lets call in the HEAVY HORSES
the long bows have all been drawn
in the name of the father the son and the holy ghost and st peter whoo slew simon magi, i call on alll the saints, i call on all redeemed souls to cry to the lord as one in mute resolute conviction
to bring to light the evil works of man
amen
now guys
lets see ur ivory towers crumble
i adjure the, old serpent of the deep, begone , u have been exposed as a cheat and a liar from old
salve me Redemptor Mundi

tallcotton says:

I’m still here, Al. You’d better check your batteries.

Tall Cotton

tallcotton says:

No, Al. You can’t see past your nose.

SarachConnor (abac68) says:

Al – You know I have been thinking about that Morgellons Festival.

What do you think about this little number to be played at the “Morgellons” Festival?

http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/billyelliot/ilovetoboogie.htm

dblcreek says:

The festival continues, despite all efforts to interfere and in this case the owner is a beloved friend and will quiz and report any fowl play. London, come out of your condo, there’s a world out here. Hundreds if not thousands are coming and you’ll be missing out and you’re guessing wrong. Don’t make me start this stuff with ya’ll again. I’m not interfering with you and Gill, you’ve interfered enough to become one of the most despised culprits on the internet, but I still don’t understand Michael.. TC….SK…what is your concern? If you don’t HAVE this DOP or Morgellons and you are convinced it doesn’t exist, what exactly IS your vested interest?
Now any boogies come my way or my people’s way between now and the festival and I’m ’bout tired of letting them slide and if you think I don’t have the folks with the computer and investigation skills to track this down you are very sadly mistaken and if it gets to the point of legal interference, I don’t want the hassle but since I’ve got 4 under retainer you are a fly one my wall. Either rejoice that there will be information available. Or mind your own business. What’s it to you? Envy?

dblcreek says:

Hey Sarah,
Come on down and jam up a storm, can you sing or play an instrument like the rest of us? I’ll even set you aside a time spot if you ID yourself at the door. VIP treatment. Boogie down girlfriend, boogie down. Are you stuck in the 70s or 80s, I stopped listening to music for the most part in the 80s, most of it was crap! These are bands with national recognition so you’d better hit your voice coach quick! We’ll se you there! Just ask for me, Mama Shack at the Illinois River in Tahlequah and TC and SK, your picture will be posted at the gate. ID’s WILL be required and purpose determined. Otherwise even the medias saying it’s the best most diverse event to ever hit Eastern Oklahoma so whatever the cause, its a kickass show!

tallcotton says:

She’ll never recognize us at the Woodscratch Festival wearing our Groucho noses, stashes, and glasses.

dblcreek says:

No, no violence….negative attitudes are left at the door and that includes ANY individual OR group. But if the DOP crap starts flying, there IS excellent trained security and it will be quickly silenced. This is a coming together of hearts, minds and souls and it’s a shame you make such a mockery of such a wonderful event. Put Morgellons aside and we’ve never HAD bands like this all in one place.

I’m saying be kind, be respectful and this event built on dreams, only the best wishes for the patients, and love, blood, sweat and tears, and it will be a LOVELY, BEAUTIFUL thing to behold, bring ugliness of spirit and yes, you will have to be removed . Whether your Morgwatch, NMO, MRF, XYZ, ABC, I don’t care…I’ll be making the final call and our security are pros, so just make sure if you decide to come to leave your hostilities and issues (EVERYONE) at the DOOR !